bug#11441: 24.1.50; EDE Mode only supports Make and Automake projects

bug#11441: 24.1.50; EDE Mode only supports Make and Automake projects

[Christoph Scholtes]

From the info file for EDE Mode:
"The `ede-new' command prompts for the type of project you would like
to create.  Each project type has its own benefits or language specific
enhancements.  EDE supports four different project types: `Make',
`Automake', `direct Automake', and `Simple'."

(global-ede-mode t)
M-x ede-new <TAB>

only lists Make and Automake projects in the completions buffer. `Simple'
and `direct Automake' projects are not available.



In GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601)
 of 2012-05-08 on MARVIN
Bzr revision: 108157 rgm@gnu.org-20120508015017-lriy2hubm9lg92ix
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
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bug#11441: 24.1.50; EDE Mode only supports Make and Automake projects

[Glenn Morris]

Christoph Scholtes wrote:

>>From the info file for EDE Mode:
> "The `ede-new' command prompts for the type of project you would like
> to create.  Each project type has its own benefits or language specific
> enhancements.  EDE supports four different project types: `Make',
> `Automake', `direct Automake', and `Simple'."
>
> (global-ede-mode t)
> M-x ede-new <TAB>
>
> only lists Make and Automake projects in the completions buffer. `Simple'
> and `direct Automake' projects are not available.

From the very same info node:

    You cannot create direct Automake projects with the `ede-new'
    command.  Instead, when you visit a project with existing Automake
    files, EDE automatically detects them.

Don't know about "simple" though.

bug#11441: 24.1.50; EDE Mode only supports Make and Automake projects

[Glenn Morris]

Glenn Morris wrote:

> Don't know about "simple" though.

Again from the same info node:

  * The `Simple' project type provides light-weight constructs for
     identifying a project root and looking up files.  If you already
     have a non-EDE project infrastructure, you can use a `Simple'
     project to provide other Emacs packages, such as Semantic, with
     some information about the project.  *Note Simple projects::.

So I assume that it is impossible to create a new "simple" project
because the very concept means a pre-existing, non-EDE project.

bug#11441: 24.1.50; EDE Mode only supports Make and Automake projects

[Christoph Scholtes]

On 5/10/2012 12:06 PM, Glenn Morris wrote:

>> Don't know about "simple" though.
>
> Again from the same info node:
>
>    * The `Simple' project type provides light-weight constructs for
>       identifying a project root and looking up files.  If you already
>       have a non-EDE project infrastructure, you can use a `Simple'
>       project to provide other Emacs packages, such as Semantic, with
>       some information about the project.  *Note Simple projects::.
>
> So I assume that it is impossible to create a new "simple" project
> because the very concept means a pre-existing, non-EDE project.

  Hmm...how do I create a Simple project then? There is no information 
about that and the whole node makes it sounds like I can create projects 
with ede-new (minus direct Automake, like you pointed out earlier).

bug#11441: 24.1.50; EDE Mode only supports Make and Automake projects

[Glenn Morris]

Christoph Scholtes wrote:

>  Hmm...how do I create a Simple project then?

I've no idea, I've never used EDE for anything. :)

There is a "Simple Projects" manual node, with a menu entry:

  * ede-simple subclassing:: Create your own simple project.

that looks promising. But...

   6.1.2 ede-simple Subclassing
   ----------------------------

   todo - Write some doc.

      In the meantime look in the commentary of ede-simple.el

Oh dear. The file is not even called ede-simple.el in Emacs, it is
ede/simple.el. Its commentary says:

   ;; NOTE: EDE Simple Projects are considered obsolete.  Use generic
   ;; projects instead.

So it gets worse! :)
"Generic projects" aren't mentioned at all in the manual AFAICS.

bug#11441: 24.1.50; EDE Mode only supports Make and Automake projects

[Christoph Scholtes]

On 5/10/2012 7:47 PM, Glenn Morris wrote:

> I've no idea, I've never used EDE for anything. :)

I'm mainly interested in pointing Semantic to project-specific includes. 
I thought Simple projects sounded...simple enough for that. ;)

> There is a "Simple Projects" manual node, with a menu entry:
>
>    * ede-simple subclassing:: Create your own simple project.
>
> that looks promising. But...
>
>     6.1.2 ede-simple Subclassing
>     ----------------------------
>
>     todo - Write some doc.
>
>        In the meantime look in the commentary of ede-simple.el
>
> Oh dear. The file is not even called ede-simple.el in Emacs, it is
> ede/simple.el. Its commentary says:
>
>     ;; NOTE: EDE Simple Projects are considered obsolete.  Use generic
>     ;; projects instead.
>
> So it gets worse! :)
> "Generic projects" aren't mentioned at all in the manual AFAICS.

Oh boy...I wonder if this has been cleaned up in the 'real' CEDET.

I am copying Eric. Maybe he can help assess what to do with this. This 
is just not good.

Thanks for looking into this Glenn.

Christoph

bug#11441: 24.1.50; EDE Mode only supports Make and Automake projects

[Stefan Monnier]

> So it gets worse! :)
> "Generic projects" aren't mentioned at all in the manual AFAICS.

We could easily fix it by adding a note in the manual in about "generic
projects", explaining that they can be setup by following the
instructions for "simple projects".


        Stefan

bug#11441: 24.1.50; EDE Mode only supports Make and Automake projects

[David Engster]

Eric fixed the docs upstream an I merged it into the emacs-24 branch. If
those changes are sufficient, this bug could be closed.

-David