From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastian Tennant Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1973: Bug in simple.el (Emacs version 22.2.1) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:46:18 +0000 Message-ID: References: <63k9n3fx.fsf@vps203.linuxvps.org> <8wp37x1c.fsf@vps203.linuxvps.org> Reply-To: Sebastian Tennant , 1973@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1232708703 14714 80.91.229.12 (23 Jan 2009 11:05:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:05:03 +0000 (UTC) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 23 12:06:12 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LQJqU-0001QA-RJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:05:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55571 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LQJpD-000138-DH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 06:03:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LQJp1-0000vu-KQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 06:03:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LQJp0-0000uQ-He for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 06:03:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46793 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LQJoz-0000u7-VY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 06:03:34 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:52588) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LQJoz-0006O5-9L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 06:03:33 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0NB3SGc019819; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:03:28 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n0NAo3Sf016364; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:50:03 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Sebastian Tennant Original-Sender: news Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:50:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1973 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.123270749415142 (code B ref -1); Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:50:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 23 Jan 2009 10:44:54 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0NAin8T015134 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:44:51 -0800 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LQJWq-0005it-U3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:44:49 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LQJWp-0005i2-Jk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:44:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47051 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LQJWp-0005hj-7e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:44:47 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:42719 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LQJWo-0004Fe-LP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:44:46 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LQJWl-0003M9-Vk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:44:44 +0000 Original-Received: from vps203.linuxvps.org ([91.186.7.203]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:44:43 +0000 Original-Received: from sebyte by vps203.linuxvps.org with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:44:43 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 45 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: vps203.linuxvps.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:XeHoDdVNpuEflXrCNcY5WlSI7HE= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 06:03:34 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:24415 Archived-At: Quoth "Stefan Monnier" : >> So Shell mode (in buffer *shell* for instance) is actually Comint mode >> masquerading as Shell mode > > More specifically, shell-mode is a mode derived from comint-mode > (i.e. a submode). > >> whereas buffer *Async Command Output* is >> plain Shell mode, not masquerading as anything? > > I guess it's using shell-mode, but somehow fails to setup the process's > output filter? Now you're making it sound like a bug, just as I'm starting to accept that it's a misfeature :) >>>> Note that Kevin Rodgers does not observe the same behaviour: >>>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs/24348 >>> I'm not sure what he's referring to. >> His *Async Command Output* buffer does _not_ display ^M chars when he >> issues calls to shell-command with arguments ending "&". > > I don't know how you reach that conclusion. It's a possible > interpretation, but it's definitely not the only one. You're right, it's not clear what he means. I started a thread on gmane.emacs.help to clear this up once and for all: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help/61581 Only one respondent so far, but that's enough to convince me that it's a misfeature and not a bug, so perhaps we should mark 1973 as done/closed (I'd do this myself but I don't know how). The question for me now is how to make buffer *Async Command Output* behave like buffer *shell*, an odd thing to be doing given that they are both in Shell mode! Sebastian -- Emacs' AlsaPlayer - Music Without Jolts Lightweight, full-featured and mindful of your idyllic happiness. http://home.gna.org/eap