From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: ndame via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40774: Error messages shouldn't be hidden when the user is idle Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 18:21:48 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83mu73eagw.fsf@gnu.org> <3HKWEOXkDWKA21dsCFgMgmFIMPR3VwPgNzfTjd7I5Igswu07sfhZaP-td1X4Py66xAD6kDLyLjVmujFkuabkY_S9ZZhgGZwi0IaAV6RS59U=@protonmail.com> <83ftcve6gl.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: ndame , ndame Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="125663"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "40774@debbugs.gnu.org" <40774@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 22 20:25:32 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK3w-000WZt-7K for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 20:25:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55750 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK3v-000322-97 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:25:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51540) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK1i-0007bg-0a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:23:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK1W-0005X6-MX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:23:13 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:41654) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK1W-0005X1-AV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK1V-0002Ag-Uk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:23:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: ndame Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 18:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40774 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 40774-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40774.15875797238265 (code B ref 40774); Wed, 22 Apr 2020 18:23:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 40774) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2020 18:22:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53200 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK0Y-00029E-S9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:22:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mail4.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.27]:51575) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK0V-00028i-VN for 40774@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:22:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1587579713; bh=7KDV3NqI+V+QbkM9y8ZVDzthlcP9CRYyA076KkN7BZs=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=mJwJMS7aMYRxcpzSz4+tROuld5YiKC9qQRrbkLOFABvX+0yCMYxC90na6oHuIe1as VI6Rlv0AFPulohQPSo4EEbjB3Jw9tVb4lrCyBo5A3nU1l6Mqn2W7JmuhmuztOiiYpX agdDXhJy1LIngD61qzJqhxQVkLHbgcBSwc+Ds7lU= In-Reply-To: <83ftcve6gl.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:178822 Archived-At: On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:11 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > > How do you define "user is idle"? > > > > The same definition what run-with-idle-timer uses is suitable. > > Are you sure? That defines when Emacs is idle, which is not the > same thing. Yes, I meant "user is idle" from Emacs' point of view. I should have been more precise. I wrote: "the user is idle (e.g. uses an other app or is away from the computer)". So this feature comes into play when the user is idle in Emacs, e.g. uses an other app, so doesn't look at the Emacs window and can miss error messages.