From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Alexandrov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41532: Why use the mouse in Emacs? Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 06:33:51 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87zh9vgbkc.fsf@laposte.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="27919"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 41532@debbugs.gnu.org To: Kevin Vigouroux Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 27 06:17:35 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jdnVX-0007ED-D9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 27 May 2020 06:17:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45976 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdnVW-0003qH-18 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 27 May 2020 00:17:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59838) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdnV0-0003nx-JY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2020 00:17:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36395) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdnV0-0006GL-A3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2020 00:17:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jdnV0-0007ST-5N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2020 00:17:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Dmitry Alexandrov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 04:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41532 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: 41532@debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.159055297228592 (code B ref -1); Wed, 27 May 2020 04:17:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2020 04:16:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47937 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jdnU8-0007R1-HM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2020 00:16:11 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:56324) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jdmpW-0006Pw-VZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 May 2020 23:34:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51262) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdmpW-0003d1-Pe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 May 2020 23:34:10 -0400 Original-Received: from relay-2.mailobj.net ([213.182.54.5]:55146) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdmpV-0006pR-JN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 May 2020 23:34:10 -0400 Original-Received: from v-1c.localdomain (unknown [192.168.90.161]) by relay-2.mailobj.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9ADDD1329; Wed, 27 May 2020 05:34:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by mail-1.net-c.com [213.182.54.15] with ESMTP Wed, 27 May 2020 05:34:06 +0200 (CEST) X-EA-Auth: otHS/rnau4b9Lg7l47VwKYj6MAaigLf/nxlJD9PsgUJ208iHyLNqioqp4pszWReoGQaxZuUQB/cUssnJVGOim3RKS5958Of5 In-Reply-To: <87zh9vgbkc.fsf@laposte.net> (Kevin Vigouroux via's message of "Mon, 25 May 2020 19:37:55 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=213.182.54.5; envelope-from=dag@gnui.org; helo=relay-2.mailobj.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/26 23:34:06 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 27 May 2020 00:16:06 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:181083 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kevin Vigouroux wrote: > I think it is necessary to clarify that we use Emacs mainly with the keyb= oard because =E2=80=A6 otherwise the user will have false expectations. I there really anyone who expects that he can use a _text editor_ without k= eyboard? (Voice recognition aside.) In any case, +1 =E2=80=94 novice users better be not exposed to barely used= and therefore neglected features, such as toolkit dialogs. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIMEARYIACsWIQRSX35grYEsI2F1K7TIsPhUjufz5wUCXs3fnw0cZGFnQGdudWku b3JnAAoJEMiw+FSO5/PnOokA/1rSBW1p9IM12eARxfny4kem2TpFtxv0/H6nJdlf BgDIAP90ovmhgnK3A6U17oqvars+OYLmTkGhfa8w/5Xi+O72Bw== =Adbb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--