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From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 33255@debbugs.gnu.org, immerrr again <immerrr@gmail.com>,
	Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#33255: 27.0.50; expand-file-name: default directory expanded twice if relative
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 00:42:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <o1mupv5b5z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa1b9f5e-ef1a-6cbb-89f3-377d50299de2@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:22:19 -0800")

Paul Eggert wrote:

> By not saying anything POSIX gives permission to the application to
> set HOME to a relative name. When POSIX intends the requirement that
> an environment variable's value must be absolute (e.g., PWD), it says
> so. When it doesn't intend such a requirement (e.g., HOME, PATH,
> SHELL, TMPDIR) it says nothing.

So the justification for implementing this is indeed "it's not
explicitly forbidden".

Here's an example of how this can be confusing:

cd /tmp
mkdir foo
echo hi > foo/bar
HOME=foo emacs
C-x C-f ~/bar   ; works
M-: (shell-command "ls ~/bar")  ; fails

So, Emacs and external processes it spawns interpret ~ differently;
ie external processes are likely to fail in odd ways. All this would be
avoided if the user had just said HOME=$PWD/foo to start with.

>> I am at this point looking for any documentation (not even from POSIX,
>> any shell or frankly any Unix utility will do) that says "HOME need
>> not be absolute, if not, here's how that is handled".

AFAICS Emacs is the only thing documenting this scenario.





  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-27  5:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-04 10:54 bug#33255: 27.0.50; expand-file-name: default directory expanded twice if relative immerrr again
2018-11-04 12:27 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-11-05  0:58   ` Glenn Morris
2018-11-13 18:26 ` Paul Eggert
2018-11-13 20:12   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-14 18:10   ` Glenn Morris
2018-11-14 18:17     ` Paul Eggert
2018-11-14 19:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-20 19:11         ` Glenn Morris
2018-11-20 19:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-20 19:08       ` Glenn Morris
2018-11-20 20:44         ` Paul Eggert
2018-11-22 18:25           ` Glenn Morris
2018-11-23 20:22             ` Paul Eggert
2018-11-27  5:42               ` Glenn Morris [this message]
2018-11-27 18:11                 ` Paul Eggert

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