From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4260: 23.1.50; tramp is loading unnecessarily Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:38:45 +0200 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Michael Albinus , 4260@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1251355649 14106 80.91.229.12 (27 Aug 2009 06:47:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "4260@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com" <4260@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>, Peter Dyballa To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 27 08:47:21 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MgYlS-0001Z8-P3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:47:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54545 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MgYlS-0005Yr-1Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:47:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MgYlC-0005R9-DA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MgYl7-0005N4-Nn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:47:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51222 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MgYl7-0005N1-EL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:46:57 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:42070) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MgYl6-0003jJ-NZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:46:57 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n7R6kr1b008098; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:46:54 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7R6j65G007792; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:45:06 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:45:06 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Michael Albinus Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:45:06 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4260 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4260-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4260.12513551396897 (code B ref 4260); Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:45:06 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4260) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 27 Aug 2009 06:38:59 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mailrelay2.alcatel.de (mailrelay2.alcatel.de [194.113.59.96]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n7R6cv32006891 for <4260@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:38:58 -0700 Original-Received: from destgsu0048.stgl.sel.alcatel.de (destgsu0048.de.alcatel-lucent.com [149.204.242.4]) by mailrelay2.alcatel.de (8.13.8/8.13.8/ICT) with ESMTP id n7R6cps2011366; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:38:51 +0200 Original-Received: from slbhn1.alcatel.de (slbhn1.de.alcatel-lucent.com [149.204.90.35]) by destgsu0048.stgl.sel.alcatel.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id n7R6clY4020485; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:38:50 +0200 (MEST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:02:19 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Alcanet-virus-scanned: n7R6clY4020485 at destgsu0048.stgl.sel.alcatel.de X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 149.204.45.73 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:47:01 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:30606 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Because partial completion is enabled by default in Emacs 23. It wasn't >> in Emacs 22. > > As I said, I think the current behavior is wrong and should be fixed. > "check if partial-completion is enabled" was a heuristic which worked in > Emacs-23. It's not The Right Thing. So we shouldn't take it as holy > word and stick to it. Instead we should revisit it. > The thing that does matter is that "emacs -Q" should not autoload Tramp when > you just do C-x C-f /s TAB That's what I'm working on. Tramp shall not be loaded before you type "C-x C-f /s: TAB" or "C-x C-f /s@ TAB". Alternatively, we could introduce another value `remote-completion' (or something like this) to be added to `completion-styles'. Then a user must place in her .emacs (add-to-list 'completion-styles 'remote-completion) Which solution do you prefer? > Stefan Best regards, Michael.