From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#34357: Non-Emacs feeling Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:46:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5C5B6005020000A10002F8AF@gwsmtp1.uni-regensburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="208233"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) Cc: 34357@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Ulrich Windl" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 07 00:47:24 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1grWuZ-000s1E-7W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 00:47:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60065 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grWuY-0000oK-4I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:47:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52418) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grWuF-0000o1-1Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:47:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grWuE-0004RP-B8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:47:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37082) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grWuE-0004RE-7h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:47:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1grWuD-0005wY-UW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:47:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 23:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34357 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 34357-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34357.154949680922828 (code B ref 34357); Wed, 06 Feb 2019 23:47:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 34357) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2019 23:46:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36363 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1grWtz-0005w7-RV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:46:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37939) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1grWtx-0005vq-Ts for 34357@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:46:46 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50194) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grWtr-0004BG-P7; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:46:39 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1grWtp-0002lx-Qo; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:46:37 -0500 X-Spook: First responder Chemical USSS AIMSX CIDA condor Domestic X-Ran: -yu\Mq2u&I%Rr4F^:4Xy;48J^usaW#FzJTzqIzoAt:zH^?t64JzD$[7HW%-m?>]Z+mi>]~ X-Hue: white X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <5C5B6005020000A10002F8AF@gwsmtp1.uni-regensburg.de> (Ulrich Windl's message of "Wed, 06 Feb 2019 23:30:29 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:155202 Archived-At: "Ulrich Windl" wrote: > 1: Since some versions you cannot autocomplete the buffer you are > visiting any more: A typical use-case is that you want to visit the > buffer you are editing in another window, like after C-x 4 b. Now you > must completely type the buffer name, an absolute mis-feature! This is https://debbugs.gnu.org/12916 and bug#9598. You will find discussion there. > 2: When long lines are being displayed, mark up and down do not change > the position to the next logical line (as defined by the buffer), but > to the displayed line (subject to screen and font size). If you are at > the beginning of a long line, and you want to move to the next line > (maybe to insert something), this "change" is a nightmare. I know it > can be customized, but why is the incompatible stupid setting the new > default? This changed in Emacs 23.1. I'm sure if you search mailing lists you will find discussions from around that time. It was 10 years ago. With that, I'm closing this report.