From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21959: [25.1.50.1] No way to save customization from emacs -Q Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <564DC031.4020104@easy-emacs.de> <83oaeq7zm7.fsf@gnu.org> <564ECAA7.8030507@easy-emacs.de> <83io4x6pt0.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448031055 16751 80.91.229.3 (20 Nov 2015 14:50:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:50:55 +0000 (UTC) To: 21959@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 20 15:50:42 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zzn0u-0001hV-FE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:50:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47793 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zzn0t-0005CT-Uk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:50:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60209) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zzn0p-0005Ap-Pf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:50:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zzn0k-0007AB-Pj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:50:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56014) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zzn0k-0007A6-MB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:50:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zzn0k-0002Rk-Dg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:50:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <564DC031.4020104@easy-emacs.de> Resent-From: Random832 Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21959 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14480309499307 (code B ref -1); Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:50:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2015 14:49:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45722 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zzmzs-0002Q2-MB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:49:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49750) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzmzY-0002Ov-CW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:49:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzmzX-0006ds-8c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:48:48 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:40625) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzmzX-0006do-5d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:48:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59755) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzmzW-0004pd-Ch for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:48:47 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzmzR-0006cp-DI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:48:46 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:40375) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzmzR-0006cT-6N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:48:41 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzmxP-0006Pa-Oa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:46:35 +0100 Original-Received: from c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net ([68.39.146.59]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:46:35 +0100 Original-Received: from random832 by c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:46:35 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 8 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:108979 Archived-At: On 2015-11-20, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > AFAIU, Customize cannot _update_ your settings (which might include > customizations of more than one feature) without _loading_ them from > your ~/.emacs first. Why can't it "load" it (into a "saved but not set" state, or where the default value is considered "set and not saved") without _applying_ the settings, by simply reading from your .emacs when you first run customize?