From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38006: 27.0.50; C-h w doesn't appear to work with autoloaded commands Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:30:21 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="220839"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: 38006@debbugs.gnu.org To: Philipp Stephani Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 31 17:37:07 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iQDRb-000vJz-Ag for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:37:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52544 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iQDRZ-0000wp-SX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 12:37:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39292) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iQDLl-0002Fk-U1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 12:31:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iQDLj-0000Hv-SK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 12:31:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:45328) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iQDLi-0000HH-QB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 12:31:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQDLi-0002PD-HN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 12:31:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38006 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38006-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38006.15725394309203 (code B ref 38006); Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:31:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38006) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Oct 2019 16:30:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54149 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQDLC-0002ON-0f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 12:30:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:33382 helo=mx1.suse.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQDL9-0002OA-Uc for 38006@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 12:30:28 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Original-Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08A7B022; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:30:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Yow: SHHHH!! I hear SIX TATTOOED TRUCK-DRIVERS tossing ENGINE BLOCKS into empty OIL DRUMS.. In-Reply-To: (Philipp Stephani's message of "Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:56:01 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:170532 Archived-At: On Okt 31 2019, Philipp Stephani wrote: > emacs -Q > C-h w 2C-two-columns RET > Output is "2C-two-columns is not on any key". > However, runs 2C-two-columns. > This means that apparently C-h w doesn't work with autoloaded commands > that aren't yet loaded. It would be nice if this worked. The problem is that the keymap that is bound to f2 is autoloaded. Emacs does not know how that keymap looks like until it is loaded, and the command isn't really bound until then. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different."