From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4157: 23.1.50; faulty character characterisation for =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A4?= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 10:15:35 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="12920"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: Peter Dyballa , Stefan Monnier , 4157@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 10 10:16:13 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iITcL-0003AK-6a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 10:16:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34978 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iITcK-0008EM-1C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 04:16:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56314) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iITcB-0008Bj-OD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 04:16:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iITcA-0001yY-O7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 04:16:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iITcA-0001yN-Kn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 04:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iITcA-00082B-ES for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 04:16:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 08:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 4157 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 4157-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B4157.157069534430855 (code B ref 4157); Thu, 10 Oct 2019 08:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4157) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Oct 2019 08:15:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55026 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iITbs-00081b-D1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 04:15:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:37266 helo=mx1.suse.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iITbq-00081N-HC for 4157@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 04:15:43 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Original-Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD83AAFC1; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 08:15:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Yow: How's the wife? Is she at home enjoying capitalism? In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Thu, 10 Oct 2019 02:10:10 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:168851 Archived-At: On Okt 10 2019, Stefan Kangas wrote: > LC_CTYPE=de_DE.ISO8859-15 LANG=de_DE.ISO8859-15 ./src/emacs -Q > > When I replace "./src/emacs -Q" with "ls -l" in terminal, I get > strange characters for files with mtime in March. (I tried this with > the default Terminal.app as well as another terminal emulator called > iterm2.) The month name is "März" in German but when it's in the > date, the character "ä" shows up as "?". Meanwhile, any filenames > with the same character displays correctly, like so: > > -rw-r--r-- 1 skangas staff 0 10 Okt 01:59 März > drwxr-xr-x 3 skangas staff 96 10 M?r 2017 foobar You are instructing ls to use Latin-9 for formatting the date, but it doesn't do anything with the file names it gets from the system. So this is expected. You will see exactly the same behaviour on Linux. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different."