From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#737: vc-dir reports unregistered-then-deleted file is "up-to-date" Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:43:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <18600.37952.844941.609726@rgrjr.rgrjr.dyndns.org> <200810040538.m945cRWl025789@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200810050104.m9514rDt028153@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200810050224.m952OBGw028267@mothra.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: Glenn Morris , 737@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1223251820 5599 80.91.229.12 (6 Oct 2008 00:10:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 737@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Dan Nicolaescu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 06 02:11:18 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kmdgr-0001Gv-Lc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:11:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38756 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kmdfn-0002FV-Tc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:10:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kmdfk-0002F7-Qs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:10:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kmdfj-0002Ec-Qn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:09:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41769 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kmdfj-0002EY-IO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:09:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:42026) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kmdfi-0007Ou-Ub for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:09:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9609v6C026180; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:09:57 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m95Nt44O022001; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 16:55:04 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Glenn Morris Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:55:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 737 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 737-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B737.122325036020626 (code B ref 737); Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:55:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 737) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 5 Oct 2008 23:46:00 +0000 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m95Njvu2020620 for <737@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 16:45:58 -0700 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KmdGD-00020L-0B; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:43:37 -0400 X-Spook: Osama beanpole Operation Iraqi Freedom NORAD Cocaine X-Ran: )Y+f<9p9shLcD-vG|hyd*Wm~+<[Pdtu\>ztO^ww0_XL (Dan Nicolaescu's message of "Sat, 4 Oct 2008 19:24:11 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:09:59 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:21146 Archived-At: Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > I just don't think it should be the default. I do think that it's > fundamentally broken, so I don't want to have anything to do with it. > > > Or introduce a vc-dir-stay-local, default nil? > > I'd prefer it *stay-local would not pollute vc-dir.el, none of the > modern VC systems needs it, so there's no good reason to deal with it in > the future. As a user of older version control systems, I can't help but feel disenfranchised. I see these options: 1) Take out the checks for stay-local I added recently; vc-dir will always contact the server. Which is fine if you want to argue that this is a new feature, but I will file a wishlist bug to have similar behaviour re-added at some later date. 2) Add a vc-dir-stay-local, default nil, which overrides the others. 3) Change the defaults of vc-stay-local and friends to be nil. 4) Leave as at present, on the assumption that people understand that vc-stay-local et al mean sacrificing accuracy for other gains. It's probably too late for 3) for 23.1. You seem to be set against 2). That doesn't leave much. Anyway, you wrote vc-dir. What would you like me to do?