From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31167: 27.0.50; When the computer has no network connection, Emacs can take minutes to start Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:10:59 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1524514213 4393 195.159.176.226 (23 Apr 2018 20:10:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 20:10:13 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Noam Postavsky , 31167@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 23 22:10:08 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAhmo-00011c-B5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:11:01 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEXEsZ8MAgEwIRFnVz0U CQYSBwUPBQIlDjrDAAACeklEQVQ4jU2UQZKjMAxFXaEv4KkO627ZmTVjMQeIEeyhbO9JYd3/CCOZ JD2uFBA/pC9/yxiICAH0hxjQgTw6kJsBAiICDzoCnMOTAh3tChAp+qg3ck9AlInSPOtT9Hox4Nts LnnmR5bEEvIGKefMtfAjIKJzDoNoaPCcUmYuzIJEpuk1kDOlCDPn/hgcdmMDKpGSJAVvLdYNcNQi wRxnTUsPdLdoTHCdGd7rmCvtC5OVtf9xINo/IE0YPu9WRs81p6cGie6X6XixJ5Fi4hmxcBGwlgYs l/oCq61OzL3+RFADqdg+etd925eIgDiLIZLjmKSi/X+NLH6U3T6Gzo12b4Crlls4zYXtVawL5Zzn msDcetvnUvd9czAuvPaviG/L8tp1twe4m+cWwK1cnbRXtkyloudzqMZqH16y7SxGIPw+wRYMfNsy BJvWKsbLoph7ybaBAidmS1sZXOLMtclEAffHYJ5jTJR3ne8fYPD2C1+gy3yugw8Bobh3iE+rZW2L KgAhvUNGWtZzIQ8BOGpIp+BDfa51lrIMDiZMiJcynUACjlspDVxIDCxJjoNUHQGhiyE2cJ+C+BEa mEacuoAibszF54X7qhEOnZwe7MIJ4NbsARda76PzdWtg2nsCJPr6IO178b9GI5VenLWf8m78GgXM fFBJpKAL9gqrbs6o/Z1rLrK1ascHO9MdYrJ0kiZLmU7w95CrhrZ2FaLt08A2PK1qp+gHdKg2tpPU gAhF05xFp0r0Anq+GkAAVZjP6SoHD4KCECFqxiDTenQ5k9ON8rv0h2uBy9HaehOLDWzeKtBcDmKy du/lMyPfEoBVvivyUTKDbsdi5c8N3D9yn+zUptfSggAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== In-Reply-To: (Paul Eggert's message of "Mon, 23 Apr 2018 12:59:22 -0700") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:145714 Archived-At: Paul Eggert writes: > On 04/23/2018 12:50 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> Paul Eggert writes: >> >>>> I remember running into this a couple of weeks ago on a Debian >>>> jessie system, and the Emacs there is... let's see... 25.1.1. That's >>>> after 2014 >>> Yes, the problem that I fixed in 2014 should not be present in Emacs >>> 25.1. Of course there could be some other problem with similar >>> symptoms. >> I was mistaken -- the system in question has Emacs 24.4.1 installed. >> Does that version include your fix? > > No. So perhaps the problem is fixed after all. Yes. But I've now tried reproducing this on a different machine with 24.4.1 (since the one I experienced the problem on is now a production server :-)) and any combination of setting up bad routing tables, on the machine itself and on the router, doesn't manage to trigger the problem... This is all so odd. I guess I have to make precise notes on what the state of the networking is the next time I see this thing so that I can test the same thing on a newer Emacs... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no