From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19284: 25.0.50; tls.el uses option --insecure Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 19:22:49 +0100 Message-ID: References: <86iohpq3w2.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de> <87k2o0q5by.fsf@gnus.org> <87k2ny1b8a.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87y4cdvyyr.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <8737uk0zal.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451499860 9860 80.91.229.3 (30 Dec 2015 18:24:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19284@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ivan Shmakov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 30 19:24:09 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aELPs-00038m-Ub for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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I hope that explains my > reasoning better. Yeah. For the version after this, we should dump tls.el (and starttls.el) completely. If somebody wants a way to do TLS proxying, we should add that as separate functionality, not something that plops out as a side-effect of using gnutls-cli. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no