From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9244: 24.0.50; Server put offline without any prompt Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:29:32 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1315683184 20871 80.91.229.12 (10 Sep 2011 19:33:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9244@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 10 21:32:57 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2TIO-0000vR-Tz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:32:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36339 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R2TIO-0007fb-Gh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:37:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9244) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2011 19:36:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2TME-0003eK-LV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:36:55 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2TMC-0003eD-Cy for 9244@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:36:53 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R2TI2-0004oq-6z; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:32:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:48:03 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAD1BMVEURCQ1bQ1CekYtCLTcp GyLWId+gAAACf0lEQVQ4jTWTi5XjMAhF8ZgCjOQCRiQFWEYFSAv917QPT+Kc/HTF40/B3vUkipjE RcXwTR6DYoZJmwAB0HoCHjbI0qScMR6LZg4+F8Aak62bjzFp19cZTEFuwHjHGO6wWFoH035NG0Ew S88BTreOa5JRJODALYYNQJGYcztjmoGGjxnueaeJHNQnQFeaiApKj4smekAzRi+KXGbvDwjFc/m1 j9FVM+OQblL0ecgmHIqmVP+cPY/b3N1wgqieg4ZXXhiDdpc0ZWrf2wUvYaRd02Ly97znx3FN76jv IvoDraiXVsOJXUSAaH4tBqG+KIlXqQBMj8Gxt5MnjS1imfSLiXncRRvSPtkHnRRrLEEM0wP6hgKe vFRQafQVpvkDOVysJWLTa+NwWwcjqvEj+nttbU3zth97uHS5BbXqotlwPFwWhBCudWgyJmWkbl27 2XWhf2YCsIlVyyM7vwAZVnokoivs45mhL/Ba2phb69MNDUSQlsVtFLVUpp9Xp+jtleYfsLmeQXdF yl0nHxfLH/DVIFwSLP1Nn/K0GX9fCVC2uDELAP0D7rojs3syliB90OpPawOTTiwdZb6V2TDaH4B5 xQzWB7wHPVqP8xYAr1/MEaQnfZxc9E8WOtoOmrumD7RxSUHTAbKsV45Lw8qwJyhvMsFm7mVyjsux 4351WMBH/QVoGIpNnzy62h+ACu0vgFX0Ddebji4AURDJ/sZGbhkLAtHTE3iD/PamK8FBkkGh27DA 8tPPCQCptg7K3V2iGLQ5acspzK3A7/Dyws4gD2S+vzdKgMixkUUHdygiczoBcJAFCZT/hN/oHf+q Y+yz7IZtXQ+YqyU4sxGqjIIiR2j8B8BUlkyS2jVvAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Various's _New Wave to New Beat Volume 2_: "Man Parrish - Hip Hop Be Bop (Dub)" X-MailScanner-ID: 1R2TI2-0004oq-6z MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1316287954.76796@gq2j8uN7U2ap118ELj9Fcg X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:37:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:50797 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Yes, it's marked "denied" if you can't open it. > > It's set to `offline' here, not `denied'. Oops. Yeah, that's true. I was thinking of non-agented groups, which gets `denied' in the same situation. >>> Can the prompting be re-introduced, please? >> No, the go-offline thing didn't make any sense in most situations. The >> offline/online thing is a global Gnus thing, and if (say) your IMAP >> connection to Gmail fails, it makes no sense to put Gnus offline with >> respect to the other servers. > > I totally agree and that's indeed the problem I have: Gnus does put my > IMAP connection in `offline' state where it shouldn't. > > Actually for me the prompt made a lot of sense: sometimes the connection > failure was really just transient and I want Gnus to re-try connecting, > whereas at other times the connection fails for good reasons (e.g. it's > a server that I can only access from some places and not from others, or > only when the VPN is activated, or it is down for maintenance, ...) and > I want to mark it offline so it doesn't prevent me from accessing > other servers. The prompting drove me crazy, because it would trigger in the middle of doing, well, anything, like batch-sending emails. But I could add an option to enable people to get the prompt if they want to? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/