From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33237: 26.1, 7.3 emacs-mac: list order in C-h b Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:50:22 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1905EAD6-8AD3-4ED2-A80B-26DAF98FF08C@scratch.space> <87lfx63tai.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <838st63pbn.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="78782"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: van@scratch.space, 33237@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 11 16:51:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hlaPf-000KNO-E5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:51:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42378 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlaPd-00059M-Mz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 10:51:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40789) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlaPX-000599-8S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 10:51:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hlaPW-0004ET-7a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 10:51:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:57775) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hlaPW-0004DV-3z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 10:51:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlaPV-0007ED-W7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 10:51:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33237 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 33237-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33237.156285663227749 (code B ref 33237); Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:51:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 33237) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2019 14:50:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38363 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlaP1-0007DT-Hm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 10:50:31 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:56214) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlaOx-0007DG-7V for 33237@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 10:50:28 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hlaOs-0004b8-8y; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:50:24 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEUkGwwNCQT5+OtyZj5A NhuekmO8tIfMxJpwXbpLAAACRElEQVQ4jWWTwZKbMAyG5YG925PdPkC2W67bsc3ZGat77gxr8gAp 5p4U/PqVZEgzrQZI7A/pl2QB1yNZV9ac5/JgKwg4dsuYMy3zxD+l5LyB480mMdvnObP/P2CwPW2y 7eDN2Wp93kDZRH4hsO1ghXkDNwwYCIy7x7yLuMYOG2AZGOcKXmNaJqc9h5orqC6v/dxdnfJ38TFX 8HW8Hrvfyv4HuuNxKq8qjn9BqSKlXM6jwnu6d5CWfvSn9se43j0k1jLOabInaPy4g5rWW9+tFxug sZUQqOpdLqNzQKASBiJynlLCoEIzEHkAb2tyiKCk9UxYQ9Qv3lEPIWcG1DHxoJon66nv5kCHm/hY kgCKVQZHoD2vfLxsEqocKVPaV/psHwB5XBfLCsY8xW+PIJeLKBvT4I2BE0BovqAyplUm2iixvIUz 92xe7MnocNLR+rJSXj7BTNNFt/1uUKlnP/Q0j1QKg8JDOXwSIIcPTp26Q4Ammiqfkmq1vn2RhhLJ 4kH34l0bVHq5MikyVzXUYhOifjrQisWt5zoS3ZNNTh2aZ1pJFy34tM2/fVeHp+ClcIwWtiG3jiZX xxDlLxnwIyLS6gQG8Yay29IVoI2yUEYjUgpBvgdo6aIvYAcUHDQYzSgABZSm64Ctf6c3yMQLgxyT eQZ4mZTsGzB0boQwhLrx01QDVtchtigRNEfcAL0NECkzFmGqdg+krFrEgcI177uDqWlBdB8DttBs KTHQpM0JRxcUAfXgQfVIkVyWuRtoTU+l6/Q82B+a9AiHe95C5gAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== In-Reply-To: <838st63pbn.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 10 Jul 2019 18:02:36 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:162707 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > It sounds very strange to use string-version-lessp here, so I think > this must have a comment explaining why. Yup. I mean, it's a function with a strange name, but what it does is nice (i.e., sort stretches of digits as a number). In other environments the function is often called something like "natural sort". > Btw, did you try string-collate-lessp instead? Yes, I tried it first, and it didn't do what I thought it would do: (sort '("1" "2" "11") 'string-collate-lessp) => ("1" "11" "2") Which isn't what we want... I'll go ahead and apply the patch (with a comment) and we can see how we like the result. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no