bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

I have the following in my .Xdefaults file:

emacs.verticalScrollBars: off

When I start Emacs up, the initial frame comes up with no mode line and
no echo area, so it's impossible to see what happens when I type
`M-x ...', for instance.



In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.16 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw scroll bars)
 of 2014-11-17 on stories
Repository revision: 8b98d158a75b94b80d17b3af3419b3163c64945c
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000
System Description:	Debian GNU/Linux 7.6 (wheezy)

Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GSETTINGS NOTIFY GNUTLS
LIBXML2 FREETYPE LIBOTF XFT ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: en_US
  locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1-unix

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  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
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  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  line-number-mode: t

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Wrote /home/larsi/.emacs
Undo!
Saving file /home/larsi/.emacs...
Wrote /home/larsi/.emacs
Auto-saving...
Making completion list...
Quit
Type C-x 1 to delete the help window.
Quit
Making completion list...

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bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[martin rudalics]

 > I have the following in my .Xdefaults file:
 >
 > emacs.verticalScrollBars: off
 >
 > When I start Emacs up, the initial frame comes up with no mode line and
 > no echo area, so it's impossible to see what happens when I type
 > `M-x ...', for instance.

With emacs -Q?  Do you have a vague idea when this happened for the
first time?

In any case please insert (window--dump-frame) in your *scratch* buffer,
evaluate it, and post the contents of *window-frame-dump* buffer here.

Thank you, martin

bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:

>> I have the following in my .Xdefaults file:
>>
>> emacs.verticalScrollBars: off
>>
>> When I start Emacs up, the initial frame comes up with no mode line and
>> no echo area, so it's impossible to see what happens when I type
>> `M-x ...', for instance.
>
> With emacs -Q?

With emacs -Q it ignores X defaults, too, so it doesn't happen there.
But it does happen with -q.

> Do you have a vague idea when this happened for the first time?

I think...  like...  three weeks ago, perhaps?  Two weeks?

> In any case please insert (window--dump-frame) in your *scratch* buffer,
> evaluate it, and post the contents of *window-frame-dump* buffer here.

Hm.  I can't see to reproduce this on this display.  I'll do the
dump-frame thing tomorrow at work.

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bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:38:10 +0100
> Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > Do you have a vague idea when this happened for the first time?
> 
> I think...  like...  three weeks ago, perhaps?  Two weeks?

Do you per chance have old src/emacs-25.0.50.xx binaries from past
builds, which you could try to find when it started?

bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
>> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:38:10 +0100
>> Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org
>> 
>> > Do you have a vague idea when this happened for the first time?
>> 
>> I think...  like...  three weeks ago, perhaps?  Two weeks?
>
> Do you per chance have old src/emacs-25.0.50.xx binaries from past
> builds, which you could try to find when it started?

Good idea.

Let's see...  Yes, I do.  I'll give them a try tomorrow at the office
machine and see whether I can reproduce it there.

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bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
>> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:38:10 +0100
>> Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org
>> 
>> > Do you have a vague idea when this happened for the first time?
>> 
>> I think...  like...  three weeks ago, perhaps?  Two weeks?
>
> Do you per chance have old src/emacs-25.0.50.xx binaries from past
> builds, which you could try to find when it started?

I "bisected" it down to these two from the backup disk:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 larsi larsi 30251403 Sep 18 20:03 /mirror/home/larsi/src/emacs/trunk/src/emacs-24.4.50.10
-rwxr-xr-x 1 larsi larsi 30151900 Aug 25 18:04 /mirror/home/larsi/src/emacs/trunk/src/emacs-24.4.50.9


emacs-24.4.50.9 is OK, and emacs-24.4.50.10 is not, so it happened
between Aug 25 and Sep 18.  Which is longer ago than I thought.

emacs-24.4.50.9 doesn't seem to respond to

emacs.verticalScrollBars: off

at all -- it shows the vertical scroll bar (in addition to the mode line
and echo area).  So perhaps the code that reacts to
emacs.verticalScrollBars also did something with those two?

It may also be geometry sensitive, since I'm not able to reproduce this
on a different screen.

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bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:

> In any case please insert (window--dump-frame) in your *scratch* buffer,
> evaluate it, and post the contents of *window-frame-dump* buffer here.

Here it is, starting with "emacs -q" from trunk, with no mode line or
echo area:

frame pixel: 596 x 1182   cols/lines: 85 x 88   units: 7 x 13
frame text pixel: 578 x 1144   cols/lines: 82 x 88
tool: 36  scroll: 0/0  fringe: 16  border: 1  right: 0  bottom: 0

#<window 3 on *scratch*>   parent: nil
pixel left: 0   top: 36   size: 594 x 1131   new: 0
char left: 0   top: 3   size: 84 x 87   new: 0
normal: 1.0 x 1.0   new: 0
body pixel: 578 x 1118   char: 82 x 86
width left fringe: 8  left margin: 0  right margin: 0
width right fringe: 8  scroll-bar: 0  divider: 0
height header-line: 0  mode-line: 13  divider: 0

#<window 4 on  *Minibuf-0*>   parent: nil
pixel left: 0   top: 1167   size: 594 x 13   new: 0
char left: 0   top: 90   size: 594 x 1   new: 0
normal: 1.0 x 1.0   new: 0
body pixel: 578 x 13   char: 82 x 1
width left fringe: 8  left margin: 0  right margin: 0
width right fringe: 8  scroll-bar: 0  divider: 0
height header-line: 0  mode-line: 0  divider: 0



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bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[martin rudalics]

 > frame pixel: 596 x 1182   cols/lines: 85 x 88   units: 7 x 13
 > frame text pixel: 578 x 1144   cols/lines: 82 x 88
 > tool: 36  scroll: 0/0  fringe: 16  border: 1  right: 0  bottom: 0
 >
 > #<window 3 on *scratch*>   parent: nil
 > pixel left: 0   top: 36   size: 594 x 1131   new: 0
 > char left: 0   top: 3   size: 84 x 87   new: 0
 > normal: 1.0 x 1.0   new: 0
 > body pixel: 578 x 1118   char: 82 x 86
 > width left fringe: 8  left margin: 0  right margin: 0
 > width right fringe: 8  scroll-bar: 0  divider: 0
 > height header-line: 0  mode-line: 13  divider: 0
 >
 > #<window 4 on  *Minibuf-0*>   parent: nil
 > pixel left: 0   top: 1167   size: 594 x 13   new: 0
 > char left: 0   top: 90   size: 594 x 1   new: 0
 > normal: 1.0 x 1.0   new: 0
 > body pixel: 578 x 13   char: 82 x 1
 > width left fringe: 8  left margin: 0  right margin: 0
 > width right fringe: 8  scroll-bar: 0  divider: 0
 > height header-line: 0  mode-line: 0  divider: 0

These values look completely normal.  Please tell me also the value
returned by (x-frame-geometry).

Do mode line and echo area reappear when you change the frame size or
split a window?

martin

bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:

> These values look completely normal.  Please tell me also the value
> returned by (x-frame-geometry).

((frame-position 0 . 0) (frame-outer-size 598 . 1184) (external-border-size 1 . 1) (title-height . 0) (menu-bar-external) (menu-bar-size 0 . 0) (tool-bar-external) (tool-bar-position . top) (tool-bar-size 596 . 36) (frame-inner-size 596 . 1146))

> Do mode line and echo area reappear when you change the frame size or
> split a window?

If I resize the frame, the mode line and echo area reappears.  If I just
split a window, the uppermost window gets a mode line, but there's still
no mode line or echo area in the bottom window.

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bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[martin rudalics]

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 > ((frame-position 0 . 0) (frame-outer-size 598 . 1184) (external-border-size 1 . 1) (title-height . 0) (menu-bar-external) (menu-bar-size 0 . 0) (tool-bar-external) (tool-bar-position . top) (tool-bar-size 596 . 36) (frame-inner-size 596 . 1146))

These values are as expected too.

 > If I resize the frame, the mode line and echo area reappears.  If I just
 > split a window, the uppermost window gets a mode line, but there's still
 > no mode line or echo area in the bottom window.

I see.  Does the problem also appear when you turn the tool bar
initially off?  Do you use `desktop-save-mode'?  If any of these is
true, can you try the patch I proposed for Bug#19048 and which I attach
here again.

Thanks, martin

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diff --git a/src/w32fns.c b/src/w32fns.c
index 1b290b7..e514970 100644
--- a/src/w32fns.c
+++ b/src/w32fns.c
@@ -1721,15 +1721,7 @@ x_set_tool_bar_lines (struct frame *f, Lisp_Object value, Lisp_Object oldval)
   else
     nlines = 0;

-  if (nlines == 0)
-    x_change_tool_bar_height (f, nlines * FRAME_LINE_HEIGHT (f));
-  else
-    {
-      f->n_tool_bar_rows = 0;
-      FRAME_TOOL_BAR_LINES (f) = nlines;
-      adjust_frame_glyphs (f);
-      SET_FRAME_GARBAGED (f);
-    }
+  x_change_tool_bar_height (f, nlines * FRAME_LINE_HEIGHT (f));
 }


@@ -1749,11 +1741,7 @@ x_change_tool_bar_height (struct frame *f, int height)
   /* Recalculate tool bar and frame text sizes.  */
   FRAME_TOOL_BAR_HEIGHT (f) = height;
   FRAME_TOOL_BAR_LINES (f) = lines;
-/**   FRAME_TEXT_HEIGHT (f) **/
-/**     = FRAME_PIXEL_TO_TEXT_HEIGHT (f, FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT (f)); **/
-/**   FRAME_LINES (f) **/
-/**     = FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT_TO_TEXT_LINES (f, FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT (f)); **/
-  /* Store the `tool-bar-lines' and `height' frame parameters.  */
+  /* Store `tool-bar-lines' and `height' frame parameters.  */
   store_frame_param (f, Qtool_bar_lines, make_number (lines));
   store_frame_param (f, Qheight, make_number (FRAME_LINES (f)));

@@ -1772,6 +1760,10 @@ x_change_tool_bar_height (struct frame *f, int height)
   adjust_frame_size (f, -1, -1, (old_height == 0 || height == 0) ? 2 : 4, 0,
 		     Qtool_bar_lines);

+  /* adjust_frame_size might not have done anything, garbage frame
+     here.  */
+  adjust_frame_glyphs (f);
+  SET_FRAME_GARBAGED (f);
   if (FRAME_X_WINDOW (f))
     x_clear_under_internal_border (f);
 }
diff --git a/src/xfns.c b/src/xfns.c
index aaa75f2..59715d0 100644
--- a/src/xfns.c
+++ b/src/xfns.c
@@ -1075,19 +1075,7 @@ x_set_tool_bar_lines (struct frame *f, Lisp_Object value, Lisp_Object oldval)
   else
     nlines = 0;

-#ifdef USE_GTK
   x_change_tool_bar_height (f, nlines * FRAME_LINE_HEIGHT (f));
-#else /* !USE_GTK */
-  if (nlines == 0)
-    x_change_tool_bar_height (f, nlines * FRAME_LINE_HEIGHT (f));
-  else
-    {
-      f->n_tool_bar_rows = 0;
-      FRAME_TOOL_BAR_LINES (f) = nlines;
-      adjust_frame_glyphs (f);
-      SET_FRAME_GARBAGED (f);
-    }
-#endif /* USE_GTK */
 }


@@ -1124,10 +1112,6 @@ x_change_tool_bar_height (struct frame *f, int height)
   /* Recalculate tool bar and frame text sizes.  */
   FRAME_TOOL_BAR_HEIGHT (f) = height;
   FRAME_TOOL_BAR_LINES (f) = lines;
-/**   FRAME_TEXT_HEIGHT (f) **/
-/**     = FRAME_PIXEL_TO_TEXT_HEIGHT (f, FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT (f)); **/
-/**   FRAME_LINES (f) **/
-/**     = FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT_TO_TEXT_LINES (f, FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT (f)); **/
   /* Store the `tool-bar-lines' and `height' frame parameters.  */
   store_frame_param (f, Qtool_bar_lines, make_number (lines));
   store_frame_param (f, Qheight, make_number (FRAME_LINES (f)));
@@ -1153,6 +1137,10 @@ x_change_tool_bar_height (struct frame *f, int height)
   adjust_frame_size (f, -1, -1, (old_height == 0 || height == 0) ? 2 : 4, 0,
 		     Qtool_bar_lines);

+  /* adjust_frame_size might not have done anything, garbage frame
+     here.  */
+  adjust_frame_glyphs (f);
+  SET_FRAME_GARBAGED (f);
   if (FRAME_X_WINDOW (f))
     x_clear_under_internal_border (f);

bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:

>> If I resize the frame, the mode line and echo area reappears.  If I just
>> split a window, the uppermost window gets a mode line, but there's still
>> no mode line or echo area in the bottom window.
>
> I see.  Does the problem also appear when you turn the tool bar
> initially off?

I'm not sure how to test that...

> Do you use `desktop-save-mode'?  If any of these is
> true, can you try the patch I proposed for Bug#19048 and which I attach
> here again.

I don't use `desktop-save-mode'.

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bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[martin rudalics]

 >> I see.  Does the problem also appear when you turn the tool bar
 >> initially off?
 >
 > I'm not sure how to test that...

If the problem occurs with your usual .emacs then simply turn
`tool-bar-mode' off there.

martin

bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:

> I see.  Does the problem also appear when you turn the tool bar
> initially off?  Do you use `desktop-save-mode'?  If any of these is
> true, can you try the patch I proposed for Bug#19048 and which I attach
> here again.

I tried applying the patch, but it doesn't seem to apply cleanly to the
trunk any more.

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bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[martin rudalics]

 > I tried applying the patch, but it doesn't seem to apply cleanly to the
 > trunk any more.

Because it's already in trunk.  So if you still see the problem, the
patch didn't help anyway.  Could you try bisecting then?  Sorry, I have
no better idea.

martin

bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[martin rudalics]

> I have the following in my .Xdefaults file:
>
> emacs.verticalScrollBars: off
>
> When I start Emacs up, the initial frame comes up with no mode line and
> no echo area, so it's impossible to see what happens when I type
> `M-x ...', for instance.

Does this still happen?  If so I'd like to tell you how to debug this.

Thanks, martin

bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:

>> I have the following in my .Xdefaults file:
>>
>> emacs.verticalScrollBars: off
>>
>> When I start Emacs up, the initial frame comes up with no mode line and
>> no echo area, so it's impossible to see what happens when I type
>> `M-x ...', for instance.
>
> Does this still happen?  If so I'd like to tell you how to debug this.

It only seems to happen at certain geometries, so I'm unable to
reproduce this on this screen.  But I'll be back in the office next week
and can try debugging it then.

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bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I have the following in my .Xdefaults file:
>
> emacs.verticalScrollBars: off
>
> When I start Emacs up, the initial frame comes up with no mode line and
> no echo area, so it's impossible to see what happens when I type
> `M-x ...', for instance.

I'm no longer seeing this, so I'm closing this bug report.

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