From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31946: 27.0.50; The NSM should warn about more TLS problems Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 19:01:16 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87fu1apchn.fsf@gmail.com> <83in65r4n9.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3f1njku.fsf@gmail.com> <87tvpnojgt.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1530205211 16216 195.159.176.226 (28 Jun 2018 17:00:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 17:00:11 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 31946@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky To: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 28 19:00:07 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fYaH8-000480-4Y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2018 19:00:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37681 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fYaJD-0000kc-VQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2018 13:02:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56133) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fYaJ5-0000kL-4n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2018 13:02:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fYaJ2-0005BE-2V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2018 13:02:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:59148) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fYaJ1-0005Aq-W7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2018 13:02:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fYaJ1-0005N0-L7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2018 13:02:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 17:02:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31946 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: security Original-Received: via spool by 31946-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31946.153020528520568 (code B ref 31946); Thu, 28 Jun 2018 17:02:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31946) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2018 17:01:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38809 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fYaIO-0005Lf-Uj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2018 13:01:25 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:53125) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fYaIN-0005LR-2S for 31946@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2018 13:01:24 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.221.165.getinternet.no ([84.212.221.165] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fYaIH-0008KO-0L; Thu, 28 Jun 2018 19:01:20 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEUQDwwZGBSztLWOjo3e 3+JtbWskIx8dHBcbGhVCQT5bfqKpAAACVUlEQVQ4ja2RsXPaMBTGX5akbPUUZ5Xs3rFaUXqsQRm6 9SxETxvXnE28JYtltnqyuwWoFPTfRhK4Abr2Gx74/fS9z3oG9Y+avo2iCFTTnbQ71fdxAKpvVHd0 vOsPjlN1fezbDnSqOwVtGwg0Zxmqjw4ON/XspQKCvnHhx/3utw0g7qOza3R7cN3H+1GVfgu/7aoZ Mnr3WOdYmKfaO6pDRn/twWaa0pyaYH0aMhxYJQTTWzZ1pNbrY4AylgrGHpZ1ke72o9oodsdwzuj4 liFByLw5OMI9tCYp1lOZMWFU2G7c+GxVk0mBMJcMy91+7fFLFMijmG+TbxU1y6buWn/Bpg0rMdws tvbyaqmU9R/EjWq9Y7XO5HqUmWc9128BRG0IL1WGxzC7W3aVUQ60Hrhd1YsqZ+nrqCxLN8st3oPY Oepa8wxpMGXpP2PjQezupwqjCUfUA79IFfcu3E1acusAmfwqg+qlqsEHlBWxmgr0BUblIFC+PlJq ORHi8xEIdZOknBBihTWVLe0HEImcpYS8aGoHBVBxLGcPnF7l+BhU1maUbu7H8mKD078gVIHoIxsb uGHJ+ARYLv9guQBwb1EJIeQBaI0tnuQL+FQJrUWQA1pYm9+bkgBc7MQgsK58NwVKawpw+aOg+z4H X2VZ6e145xx3BTkoAGG1+cm+AgAv+AD8H2q13bKHZ4i41oFkCAKWel0lUwkXorhx810HAUIIE1ot RjNMX0Frd429AwUZuORoMi+LdeEMmetAwpzuEZYrITmV1mWEo8AGYcHdoWR4/ABn+o/gHaVgkGcq LHmvAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC In-Reply-To: (Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong's message of "Thu, 28 Jun 2018 17:42:00 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:147916 Archived-At: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong writes: >> I can't see that that web page mentions Diffie-Hellman at all? >> > > Click on the individual browsers. I see. > SSLLabs only reports that Firefox 59 / Win 7 has dropped support for > DHE_RSA in the UA capabilities page[1], but client test[2] still shows > it is supported, so does Chrome and Safari. I don't understand what's > going on there. Could that list in in client test be static? Or that > browsers still advertise their support for DHE_RSA when in fact they > don't? Might have to get on a server and log out the TLS handshake to > see what's actually going on... > > [1]: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/clients.html > [2]: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html My Chromium 66.0.3359.117 (Developer Build) built on Debian 9.4, running on Debian 9.4 (64-bit) on the viewMyClient reports not supporting DHE-RSA. Confusing. :-) I tried finding a web site that says how many sites do not support ECDHE as key exchange, and only found something from 2014 that says that was 60%... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no