From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8368: 24.0.50; "temp" means "help" - rename or at least document Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 05:45:21 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1315712941 6713 80.91.229.12 (11 Sep 2011 03:49:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 03:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8368@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 11 05:48:57 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2b2O-0002g2-EF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 05:48:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43060 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R2b2N-0008FI-Tj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:48:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48616) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R2b2K-0008FD-Gr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:48:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R2b2G-0004uW-LD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:48:52 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44419) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R2b2G-0004uS-IW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:48:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2b6L-00040L-Ft; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:53:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 03:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8368 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8368-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8368.131571317515381 (code B ref 8368); Sun, 11 Sep 2011 03:53:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8368) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2011 03:52:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2b6E-000401-MV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:52:55 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2b6C-0003zt-Du for 8368@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:52:53 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R2b1x-0000Cd-KV; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 05:48:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:26:01 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Various's _Belgian Pop & Wave Songs From the 1980s_: "Vitor Hublot - Aller Simple" X-MailScanner-ID: 1R2b1x-0000Cd-KV MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1316317710.25314@7rWjkFrQGzlkwxHFVVlgLw X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:53:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:50840 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Digging through the ChangeLogs, this is apparently the commit that > added them, but it doesn't say why. > > 1999-01-11 Richard Stallman > > * help.el (help-mode-finish): Renamed from help-mode-maybe. > Don't switch to Help mode here. > (temp-buffer-setup-hook): Use help-mode-finish. > (help-mode-setup): New function. > (temp-buffer-setup-hook): Use help-mode-setup. > > Richard, why is `help-mode-setup' run in absolutely all > `with-output-to-temp-buffer' buffers? This seems rather un-optimal, > since that macro is used for many other things than showing help > buffers. There's been no response in two months. I think the following is a bug: ;; This makes `with-output-to-temp-buffer' buffers use `help-mode'. (add-hook 'temp-buffer-setup-hook 'help-mode-setup) (add-hook 'temp-buffer-show-hook 'help-mode-finish) Would removing these be a good idea? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/