From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4712: File encoding Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:33:19 +0200 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Andreas Schwab , 4712@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1255532542 9210 80.91.229.12 (14 Oct 2009 15:02:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ezander@valkyrie.sc.cs.tu-bs.de, 4712@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 14 17:02:09 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1My5Lt-0002Ss-C0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:01:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33947 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1My5Ls-00058R-PO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:01:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1My58K-0007FO-QT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:47:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1My58G-0007BJ-2W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:47:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47716 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1My58E-0007Aj-VT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:47:15 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:33695) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1My58D-0005Ob-4u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:47:14 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n9EElAtj012426; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:47:11 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9EEe5n2011252; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:40:05 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:40:05 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:40:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4712 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4712-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4712.125553080410463 (code B ref 4712); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:40:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4712) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 14 Oct 2009 14:33:24 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n9EEXMDL010460 for <4712@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:33:23 -0700 Original-Received: from int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9EEXMEW030963; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:33:22 -0400 Original-Received: from hase.home (ovpn01.gateway.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.9.1]) by int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9EEXJvN013629; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:33:20 -0400 X-Yow: It's so OBVIOUS!! In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:04:19 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.11 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:47:20 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:31926 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Maybe so, but this part of the OP's report: > > value of $LANG: en_AU.UTF-8 > locale-coding-system: utf-8 > > indicates that UTF-8 is the "native" encoding on the OP's machine, and > there is an overwhelming user demand for silently and transparently > switch to such a native encoding when we need to select an encoding. How can silently producing a broken file be desirable? Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different."