From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9243: 24.0.50; Gnus keeps seeing 101 unread spam Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 02:39:57 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325900497 21883 80.91.229.12 (7 Jan 2012 01:41:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 01:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9243@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 07 02:41:30 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLHl-00086B-LO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 02:41:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49421 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLHk-0001gX-TB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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That should probably be unrelated to the Agent, and won't be fixed during this development cycle. To fix this properly, Gnus would have to maintain a transaction log (on disk) and update the IMAP server in a "transactional" manner, instead of (as it does now) just sending the data to the server on Group exit. > - old&seen messages that refuse to appear (they don't show up in the > Summary, tho if I disable the Agent and try again, they show up just > fine). > - different independent machines have different ideas about the number > of unseen messages in a given IMAP folder. Hm... > - not sure if it's related, but exiting a group/folder takes forever > (apparently because I ask Gnus to do expiration at that time). Some IMAP servers are really, really slow at doing expunging on big folders. They basically keep all the messages in one big file, and they have to rewrite the entire file to delete a message, if I understand correctly. Does setting `nnimap-expunge' to nil make exit fast? In that case, that's the problem, and if not, I can try do debug... > - not sure if it's related, but "B m" to move stuff from a group/folder > to another takes *ages* (as in several minutes), and I think most of > this time is spent in Gnus trying to update its idea of the content of > the destination group (after the actual move took place). Huh. Hm... Actually, can you try the `nnimap-expunge' setting for this, too? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/