From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24612: 26.0.50; calc: insertion/deletion of chars not at point in calc minibuffer Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 02:00:05 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="120552"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 24612@debbugs.gnu.org To: Tino Calancha Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 25 02:01:20 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hfYti-000VEf-Ea for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 02:01:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55614 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hfYth-0000Cg-GF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:01:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55364) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hfYtV-0000CT-Nl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:01:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hfYtT-0008Ct-RF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:01:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44849) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hfYtS-0008BX-FI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:01:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hfYtS-0008HM-Bz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:01:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 00:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24612 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 24612-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24612.156142081228649 (code B ref 24612); Tue, 25 Jun 2019 00:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24612) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2019 00:00:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58393 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hfYse-0007Rn-1l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:00:12 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:38856) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hfYsb-0007OA-Vd for 24612@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:00:10 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hfYsY-000106-0e; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 02:00:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Tino Calancha's message of "Tue, 4 Oct 2016 20:32:18 +0900 (JST)") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:161315 Archived-At: Tino Calancha writes: > It is very counter-intuitive how to modify things in the calc minibuffer. > Insertions and deletions are respect to the digit in the right hand side. > You can set the point before any digit, but will always delete > the last one. > > emacs -Q > > M-x calc RET > 9123 > I) C-a C-d ; Delete 3 instead of 9, number:912 > II) C-b C-b; Point is right after 9. > III) ; Delete 2 instead of 9, number: 91 > IV) C-a 8 ; Number: 918 instead of 891. Yes, that's supremely confusing. I don't think anything else in Emacs works this way? > I find easier if the behaviour is as follows: > M-x calc RET > 9123 > I) C-a C-d ; number: 123 > II) C-e C-b ; Point is right after 2. > III) ; number: 13 > IV) C-a 8 ; number: 813 I think I) here sounds a bit unusual, too. Wouldn't it be better if that just gave an error as normal? But, anyway, I'm guessing this behavior is on purpose. I'm not a calc user, but is there anybody here who are? And are attached to the current way this works? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no