From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31167: 27.0.50; When the computer has no network connection, Emacs can take minutes to start Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 21:50:33 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1524512953 16574 195.159.176.226 (23 Apr 2018 19:49:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 19:49:13 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Noam Postavsky , 31167@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 23 21:49:08 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAhSW-00047u-EV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 21:49:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55273 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAhUb-000364-Fq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 15:51:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37262) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAhUR-00035l-Gw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 15:51:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAhUM-0001xG-Jn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 15:51:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57767) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAhUM-0001wi-Fc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 15:51:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAhUM-0003Sa-8h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 15:51:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 19:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31167 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 31167-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31167.152451303813265 (code B ref 31167); Mon, 23 Apr 2018 19:51:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31167) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Apr 2018 19:50:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37431 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAhTy-0003Rt-BI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 15:50:38 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:56111) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAhTw-0003Rl-Me for 31167@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 15:50:37 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.221.165.getinternet.no ([84.212.221.165] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAhTt-0005oa-6v; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 21:50:35 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEVqFilSDxuIKUYxBg09 CxNiEiPGFRcGAAACWklEQVQ4jW2UTZOjIBCGkcidNnhHJtyTgb1LaO/RmP//V6a70a2p2qU0KX2g P99WhX+WN+BgVK/zWcnS/G+UAqXkHT9+Pi/zeam2beITK6BDxEI3VroBtAAFQE+L7SxcXE20ciGg PAh4Bh/Ul74IqJrBCo4tiaEkC1F7Ae0tYHeC9CQQT+CKwwPku1c2fg6A80QxXNkHzgR814BDS2Bu YS2/AAUWESODWUCEA5Qt9OXG+99poewitGClFppdmJoeDNa2P+w2GP0mQ3uSEx6kSHrohojxle59 TbgoNcbOSaglhrjclt1wIiMVfvoQ2AKgt9Ow5yCJUDvGSUyFbhq016P2KOVVyk7gClkKcQvR67Ag Z76wKQ73aTYqO3cO98qZCyBLw7Rt/J5y32uVkhBYobw8SKsd5gtXl0CZhl/SEZmYj7ViqgAMK0AD IXRk2vrTORby7UO8bjeOyhoC1DikQjcVxvmLey5AKuIkqEH397ec6BTc6H1eoo/D5m+DsZx4tqsq DPARYO02P2GylB9WOlEmBt++QL/5F+YdUqr490SX+yfqaB0dINnhphQyUDXNVFlXTE8urhm1UU5M pfQnUM7WpyZqAjix9KnTvVZhnw8QDsBaSunu0qPpbaTalMiWch4JkFcZA7QMPBuqXG2Wp8ucOBWc 5MOZVxJz5ty+WUmTZhBYPvVBG4e3DA22zoDUv1K+qbbZwM03IOVFniO6eGoHfbbsnIND9VpM8S/N VJFJh0LX2HzIJ8Pw/NHgw2jOT4Myx5dFydlfemHXxxTneo5zWbXq039WBv0DiCbEAs9drboAAAAA SUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: (Paul Eggert's message of "Wed, 18 Apr 2018 17:25:34 -0700") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:145711 Archived-At: Paul Eggert writes: > >> I remember running into this a couple of weeks ago on a Debian >> jessie system, and the Emacs there is... let's see... 25.1.1. That's >> after 2014 > > Yes, the problem that I fixed in 2014 should not be present in Emacs > 25.1. Of course there could be some other problem with similar > symptoms. I was mistaken -- the system in question has Emacs 24.4.1 installed. Does that version include your fix? > I can't reproduce the symptoms, though. I tried running Emacs master > on Fedora 27 with networking disabled (using Gnome's "Wired Connected > > Turn Off" UI), and Emacs started up fine. In those cases (where the system knows that it has lost the network connection), then Emacs starts up fast. The problem is if the network is up, but non-functional. I've tried to reproduce it on a wired machine now just by pulling the plug, but that didn't work, either. Hm... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no