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[69.165.165.189]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f20-v6sm4715176itc.13.2018.10.27.06.37.10 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 27 Oct 2018 06:37:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <834ld7ofln.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 27 Oct 2018 13:20:52 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:151676 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 20:20:14 +0300 >> From: Eli Zaretskii >> Cc: 33050@debbugs.gnu.org, fgunbin@fastmail.fm, alan@idiocy.org >> >> > From: Thomas Fitzsimmons >> > Cc: fgunbin@fastmail.fm, 33050@debbugs.gnu.org, alan@idiocy.org >> > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 11:41:02 -0400 >> > >> > That said, it is probably a bad idea to warn or signal an error if all >> > ptys are busy in the p-c-t t case. Anyway, I thought I'd mention it; >> > maybe the documentation update can address this point as well. >> >> Right, thanks for pointing that out. > > I've updated the documentation, please see if the new text makes > sense. Yes, though I might still read that and choose a pipe for ldapsearch. How about adding this sentence: [...] these features. A Lisp program should prefer a pty when interacting with a subprocess that prompts the user for information (e.g., a password) because that feature of the subprocess was probably developed and tested assuming a pty. However, for subprocesses used by Lisp programs [...] AIUI, this is your main rationale for using a pty for ldapsearch -- though feel free to reword it. Thanks, Thomas