From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7077: 24.0.50; mouse-drag-copy-region - name should say copy as kill Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:02:34 +0200 Message-ID: References: <7CDE0A71AE944FE0B0067BE2A24369EB@us.oracle.com> <7E487051D23B4BCC9AC15FFF312E8788@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309701832 25488 80.91.229.12 (3 Jul 2011 14:03:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7077@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 03 16:03:47 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdNH0-0004fJ-7m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:03:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60592 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdNGy-0002If-QW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sun, 03 Jul 2011 14:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7077) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2011 14:02:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdNGA-000868-2G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:02:54 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdNG7-00085u-Sd for 7077@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:02:52 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QdNFw-0000cJ-F8; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:02:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <7E487051D23B4BCC9AC15FFF312E8788@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:46:24 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEUEAQBROzUNCAaOdGOu noza1sHh7llOAAACV0lEQVQ4jU2UQWLjIAxFZdIDDMbdg5zZDwYfIAYfIDHc/yr9Eum0LJwE8fjS lxyiX2tKtSYb8Cwznb23ruuij95qxbeW8kH2Z9Eq8VYynocSKe2yQ397V6IOwqWUrCt5o1vX3ToI nE8JJ1tTDbmhWgdC9lM+e5vprklUEQFRoJBOzeoup3svztoNGnIcO1GJlmp7E70qPwit40qi4TT3 Gq0dhKbf20ZZz39raFYif5DkA2+sEB+ISqk9FxDnOQzqT/qoKe7fXmVsS8opRdG49NIMjaWOJcQd nxLAORD4ocVHS5+jQCkGBVbEJVofZkc+YkKxadgu2yXFG4RLnKMNV5opIFG5CcSaa06WZzIhv4So QyY6EHXmaHkBwYJos6LLonzWyGF/0q7DoOL8KXVqUVY0GCuoJWFXo3ABCPFqjM8Tw4BW5MIsp0Rh Zl00VR9qjmQWnMp1WKjExT7nB5ED4cSMQdH6cEdGpuazvxB4OydEy1dFbSaE34THiGYdCr5jGKS2 rIxkJXLzNBvPIi4FYTEtve3demJ5J3gYgvhzggnuyT+vi5enIdx0Xu5FwY+fdHukvEVH0sBHPczq jdfAKgbWQrRfS6v/2L4vM8VGu+B9ouW4l3Pj7X2zyY96YpLxjQF3O39rBHQZkJy7oaCX3OQRYKNh WX4tyW3Mft0YlgzbNRIs2prQDx5TIh1Pqukl6NdoZsrqBxAtk9kk66c/t0MJZeKIrMGz8dM8TFTG apqwdkZ62/+/DCcjQ8aYzSBzo0Qp2qsU2UMjEgKTpkL8nhKWVrC2g78A1IjJ0jxbx2cAAAAASUVO RK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Siouxsie and the Banshees's _Kaleidoscope_: "Skin" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110703:drew.adams@oracle.com::3EuxEzLpieh1CONO:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000PxMh X-Hashcash: 1:23:110703:7077@debbugs.gnu.org::TnR96UtfHbGxe2AQ:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000ZEA4 X-MailScanner-ID: 1QdNFw-0000cJ-F8 MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310306560.59446@WDwEzWHAuXyQVoXS3+5AAw X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:03:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:47831 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: >> I think that sounds reasonable, but, on the other hand, is it really >> necessary for all these functions to mention "kill" in the function >> name? It seems intuitive (to me) that `mouse-drag-copy-region' puts >> stuff in the kill ring -- what else would it do? > > 1. "Copy" can mean a couple different things. One misunderstanding > might be to copy the region to another location in a buffer - a la > copy + paste. > > 2. It's helpful for Emacs to be consistent and put important Emacs > terms into command names that involve them. That's true, but I'm not sure that this consistency is worth renaming user-visible customisation variables just to be that consistent. I was confused -- I thought `mouse-drag-copy-region' was a function, but it's a variable, which makes renaming even more of a problem, in my opinion. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/