From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16978: 24.3; SSL/TLS with multiple man-in-the-middle vulnerabilities Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:14:49 +0100 Message-ID: References: <86siqqv938.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de> <878us88ri7.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86siqqv938.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de> <86mwgwu0o6.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de> <87siqg7bnf.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86y5078bhz.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de> <87ior93rzd.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87k3bn3l3n.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395663371 5124 80.91.229.3 (24 Mar 2014 12:16:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 12:16:11 +0000 (UTC) To: 16978@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 24 13:16:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WS3nc-0002YC-MW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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With a certificate manager UI, do you think this use case is > handled as I proposed, or do we need a more thorough solution here? No, a certificate manager UI is just what we need. >"? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no