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[129.215.90.218]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u4-v6sm17610152wro.47.2018.09.21.03.22.50 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 21 Sep 2018 03:22:51 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:150519 Archived-At: On Fri, Sep 21 2018, Richard Stallman wrote: > > There are a handful of references to MELPA inside Emacs. Are these to > > be discouraged? > > The question is rather broad, so I can only say "it depends". Whether > a reference to software outside Emacs is good or bad depends on its > semantics -- that is, on what it says _about_ the software that it > references -- and on circumstances. > > Here's a general answer in terms of rules and circumstances. Thank you for the thorough answer. I've checked, and currently all of the references to MELPA tend to encourage interested users to install outside, free, software. > If logically it should be part of Emacs, we should arrange to do the > job with code that IS part of Emacs. At the moment the only *possible* example for this category that I found among the references to code on MELPA is BBDB -- but I assume that there's a longstanding decision that BBDB is best kept separate. (And back to the main theme it seems clear that what htmlize does should logically be part of Emacs.)