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Mon, 19 Oct 2020 12:11:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <835z79uzab.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:44:44 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:191035 Archived-At: >>>>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:44:44 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: >> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 20:30:41 +0100 >> From: Alan Third >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 44020@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.= org >>=20 >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:38:18PM +0200, Robert Pluim wrote: >> > >>>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 13:26:42 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: >> >=20 >> > Eli> Also, Noto Color Emoji has a free license, so it's okay f= or it to be >> > Eli> in fontset.el, but it is not clear to me whether Apple Co= lor Emoji is >> > Eli> distributed under a free license. >> >=20 >> > It=CA=BCs marked 'Copyright Apple 2011-2016' in the macOS font >> > selector. And Apple appear to be both sensitive and litigious about >> > it, so probably best not to promote it. >>=20 >> On the other hand it comes preinstalled, it only works on Apple >> devices, and Noto Color Emoji doesn't work on Apple devices. I'm not >> sure we'd really be "promoting" it. >>=20 >> IIRC Windows comes with Segoe UI Emoji preinstalled too. Eli> Both are true, but AFAIK our policy until now was not to mention s= uch Eli> fonts in fontset.el. Eli> Emoji is just one example, btw. At least for MS-Windows, the late= st Eli> versions come with many good fonts that cover most of the scripts.= So Eli> if the restriction to avoid mentioning proprietary fonts in fontse= t.el Eli> could be lifted, we could produce a very capable and complete font= set Eli> for MS-Windows. I wouldn't be surprised if the same situation did= n't Eli> exist on macOS. Not sure how things are on GNU/Linux, and what are Eli> the differences between the distros in this respect. Another thing that could be useful on GNU/Linux is to take advantage of the fact that most of them go out of their way to define pseudo-families for particular uses, such as 'emoji' or 'math', which then automatically adjust to the fonts installed on the system: $ fc-match 'emoji' NotoColorEmoji.ttf: "Noto Color Emoji" "Regular" :~ If I were to uninstall Noto Color Emoji, the same command would now return "Emoji One" Robert --=20