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From: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
To: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>
Cc: 75275@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: bug#75275: 30.0.92; `make-thread` bug on macOS 15.2
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 18:52:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2zfk9f6ic.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m28qrtglce.fsf@gmail.com> ("Gerd Möllmann"'s message of "Thu, 02 Jan 2025 18:46:25 +0100")

Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com> writes:

> Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org> writes:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 07:22:21PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>> > From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
>>> > Cc: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>,  stefankangas@gmail.com,
>>> >   75275@debbugs.gnu.org
>>> > Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 18:09:46 +0100
>>> > 
>>> > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>>> > 
>>> > >> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 16:06:25 +0000
>>> > >> From: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>
>>> > >> Cc: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>,
>>> > >> 	75275@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>>> > >> 
>>> > >> On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 09:19:36AM -0600, Stefan Kangas wrote:
>>> > >> > That patch fixes it for me, indeed.  Thanks!
>>> > >> 
>>> > >> Hi Stefan, any chance you could check this version?
>>> > >> 
>>> > >> I have a suspicion that Gerd's will break C-g again.
>>> > >
>>> > > Did C-g work before Gerd's commit back in March?  If not, this is not
>>> > > a regression.  If it did work, can you explain how the change Gerd
>>> > > proposed now will break C-g?
>>> > 
>>> > It's different. I made the change because Emacs freezed and C-g did
>>> > nothing. With my change, Emacs freezed and I could get out with C-g, at
>>> > least sometimes.
>>> 
>>> Your change included 2 hunks, and the suggestion is to revert only
>>> one of them.  My question is whether this is likely to reintroduce
>>> some regression.
>>
>> Perhaps I'm wrong. Gerd, can you remember, did your change for C-g
>> require ns_select to run the NS runloop, or did it just require the
>> clearing out of the input queue? I'm just concerned because this
>> change will reintroduce situations where it won't run the runloop.
>>
>> The more I think about it the more I think I'm wrong...
>
> AFAIR my theory went like:
>
> - [NSApp run] + key event handler put C-g in the hold queue
>
> - ns_select_1 calls "run" (it did before my change).
>
> - I couldn't find how input events from the hold queue come
>   to Emacs in the whole process, so I added that
>
> - The "call run in all threads" was then a mistake
>
> Seemed to work, to a degree.

Maybe I should add that that is kind of a loop. It can be that the first
call to ns_select_1 has no C-g in the hold queue, NSApp.run leads to one
being put in the hold queue. A second ns_select_1 then finds C-g and
gives it Emacs and so on.

Why that whole thing hangs, is another question.





  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-02 17:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-02  4:57 bug#75275: 30.0.92; `make-thread` bug on macOS 15.2 Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02  5:46 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02  5:55   ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02  6:47   ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02  7:12     ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 14:35       ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 14:38         ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 14:45           ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 15:19             ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 16:06               ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 16:47                 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 16:58                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 17:09                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 17:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 17:25                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 17:42                         ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 17:48                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 17:37                       ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 17:46                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 17:52                           ` Gerd Möllmann [this message]
2025-01-02 19:26                             ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 19:59                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 16:46               ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02  7:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02  7:58       ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02  7:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02  7:30   ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02  8:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02  8:33       ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02  8:41         ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02  8:55           ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 10:04             ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 11:03               ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 13:05                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 13:53                   ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 14:03                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 14:17                       ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 15:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 15:37                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 15:55                     ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 16:08                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02  8:51         ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02  7:31   ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02  8:31     ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 10:31     ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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