From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23085: 24.5; `customized-changed-options` Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:43:05 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1d396d5e-a6ea-4f44-8b14-3eeeb2bb10ae@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459040004 22111 80.91.229.3 (27 Mar 2016 00:53:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 00:53:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23085@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 27 01:53:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ajyx6-0002m0-Ug for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 01:53:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34200 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajyx5-00049j-Uo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 20:53:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57711) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajyx0-00046y-LV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 20:53:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajyww-0006FC-Hp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 20:53:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:41911) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajyww-0006F8-EE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 20:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ajyww-0006KY-8s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 20:53:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: John Wiegley Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 00:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23085 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23085-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23085.145903995124278 (code B ref 23085); Sun, 27 Mar 2016 00:53:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23085) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2016 00:52:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39035 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ajywR-0006JW-0N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 20:52:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-f169.google.com ([209.85.192.169]:36006) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ajywP-0006J9-AD for 23085@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 20:52:29 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-f169.google.com with SMTP id u190so109542532pfb.3 for <23085@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:52:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version; bh=Bn+rIDgVJo5o7MB7Dm3U3jS6hjVnqOcwQgt8TYTVA8I=; b=LdAuEKPlSwYE/KYr5qC3NzdBVCVPdHl7j+UoT425S7X3fIgmP6LxiCw0rT4ke3xC4a Qd4r4Hoxei3cD0y7x5XD5zj6FTRL9o3BlzhkfyZ/zL0hAVgVfi1NYiKjordDTRERnqN4 ae59W2J4aGFu64WklVHx+i39sBalHyQum3SSPwBXZ54HfQ9h+zfH87hMeS+xpv7Ynr6E jDm7Lno2IkTr7lI4jXJwD4pdRi9C0eUtPoGCTUqU5v+dcPCXeCZmJxnhE4RmhiCLd+Ya 7ofz5n/c4LWiSytRSYDzbr3JoBqgnb08XR6DZtodt+ZaFA0sE+Wm2/DJTZAE+kcafdVv 1o5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version; bh=Bn+rIDgVJo5o7MB7Dm3U3jS6hjVnqOcwQgt8TYTVA8I=; b=k6dgBMaeVzrA1sd+TobaOJ5QexaOe33FupowrLWgrTAObH9GQUgnrub2RujWmNvJIj 7KlPEYPVzS0nmkvkEy5Th+prB9Yf3ogeCoeWjTL2OVgrrZ54Z7i09BXNGCQmrOqkkT4F 8rwFOieOR7lA4dv5koZeTCq4jZxwfkNHDqqf2xmfhNk8TIYmmALmus6uXG7SU3xn+yTM AEovabhO0mIUwZKc/42TA3U4xS8nxjWU2/7/FECLO1tEjbD/chfPZW/M7j+tse0TYQnQ 3lv4cmRMeg+XUihHw8jc06IrqgKweCy9Eb9KPKiEKFVnrbEFgppUk5OBxhEsHsYvf1M/ WAgA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJITIXRTRTZBc0shLn95la9Y2PbSGj7XtllTu0kyAxKNlHNiWya4vvOGNnz4lRdGzQ== X-Received: by 10.98.15.23 with SMTP id x23mr32070762pfi.60.1459039943580; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Hermes.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id kl14sm429423pab.23.2016.03.26.17.52.22 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:52:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Hermes.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 28B0F4FB513C; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:52:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1d396d5e-a6ea-4f44-8b14-3eeeb2bb10ae@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:45:09 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.92 (darwin) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115537 Archived-At: >>>>> Drew Adams writes: > This name should not be an alias for `customize-changed'. The doc string for > that command says clearly that it "includes new user options and faces, and > new customization groups, as well as older options and faces". It is NOT > about only options. And the doc string combined with the unfortunate name is > quite confusing. > On the other hand, there should be separate commands that do the same thing > as `customize-changed' but for ONLY options and ONLY faces. > IOW, we SHOULD have a `customize-changed-options' and a > customize-changed-faces', but the former should NOT be an alias for > `customize-changed'. I agree, Drew. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2