From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29550: 27.0.50; `not-modified' should be disabled by default Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:58:49 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83y2y7fu05.fsf@gnu.org> <87pnjjsf83.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="236278"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: self@gkayaalp.com, 29550@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 29 10:59:17 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iEV2z-000z2w-8v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:59:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37464 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iEV2y-00066L-4h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 04:59:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60620) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iEV2n-00066F-Gy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 04:59:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEV2l-0008PY-KH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 04:59:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43408) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEV2k-0008NW-0Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 04:59:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEV2j-0004DQ-UT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 04:59:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 08:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29550 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 29550-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29550.156974754116201 (code B ref 29550); Sun, 29 Sep 2019 08:59:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29550) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2019 08:59:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52229 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEV2j-0004DB-0N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 04:59:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:39728) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEV2g-0004D3-To for 29550@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 04:58:59 -0400 Original-Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46gzwd3JzKz1rK4B; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:58:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46gzwd2pvnz1qqkH; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:58:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Original-Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MAL2gQzvIQq1; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:58:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: R1ibkKcroNAAqxaiHd78ZeODLFkWw0SaKUSABDYHhZDT4ZGLroK1VoJbtUiZmQtL Original-Received: from linux.local (ppp-46-244-165-209.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.165.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:58:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by linux.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8CAC01E538D; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:58:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Yow: Why are these athletic shoe salesmen following me?? In-Reply-To: <87pnjjsf83.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:01:48 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:167631 Archived-At: On Sep 29 2019, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> The basic controversy here, from my POV, is that I use "emacs -Q" a >> lot when working on bug reports, and having this command disabled by >> default will be a nuisance because I use it VERY often. > > Taking us poor people who work on Emacs into consideration is nice, but > shouldn't we prioritise how this works for the users? How about adding a command that reenables all disabled commands? Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."