From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gerd =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#57727: 29.0.50; Optimize tty display updates Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 15:53:32 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32038"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (darwin) Cc: 57727@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 13 15:56:19 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oY6Of-00088j-JN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 15:56:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56758 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oY6Oc-00057a-Mb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 09:56:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45072) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oY6MU-0002sX-Bu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 09:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:60739) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oY6MU-0000n8-1U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 09:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oY6MT-0000Yi-UO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 09:54:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gerd =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 13:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57727 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 57727-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57727.16630772242114 (code B ref 57727); Tue, 13 Sep 2022 13:54:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 57727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2022 13:53:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49437 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oY6MC-0000Y2-HU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 09:53:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ed1-f43.google.com ([209.85.208.43]:40782) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oY6M9-0000XO-DE for 57727@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 09:53:43 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ed1-f43.google.com with SMTP id m1so17666497edb.7 for <57727@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 06:53:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=sDwlqkqu31YU6QBXd9Si70xWyNFQpa9pjNNTChFLyJo=; b=AhaYDdqCcJi4HMEuXVYJ2WfM9ihfjo53J0ebJOZ6CY4Oq+HjLYA0L03nptyMn+d6rV pZ5jmtBwM4VFedZbipuEHlz45pyUnaMxCSobVN5QDd6Z8L3HhzEhrsVjtVhDLJ8sTAci SNbri6T5V5A5RYC3hFNoB+HHUMOllbVLQFD2GIqUchPWq6PMmFXdsNp+7cxoM42uYJ4N 4rwICAiP/cQAb9kwowXmB7TIEvy5dIrwLwMbDvcIynCWEU95tn6Di1ffUxq5U0CktRqw L6BDeBIbeypbT4NWIoyryQdHTibjZ3bojGheGWLmYORXIGXL+nFEi9e8WK/drqNczaip DhUg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from :to:cc:subject:date; bh=sDwlqkqu31YU6QBXd9Si70xWyNFQpa9pjNNTChFLyJo=; b=XhXvTEsUgtNuJr9iHagcDpzYiu7dlhXILbY8p8Fpufb8SRnUUdexDmA6UEAugiV8ce yXd79xg25kOyh5cxtOWNeoPHtK6DGve/Is7cQxGmqvK5eNt8RorD0Rv+Yvz8fDt2GoIX mbB00GW+iH//0iI3hKvFsyMnYJIwoeeXZd+woObPP4cKltfHZca1VWHiSGxDpfFAGRuP 8qBmNbOmaew4+vFKs947A9as9D4U5p9F51SZvB8TKoE/OKqw78/7q9dN5/ECS+fAs9yD SHz1GN9tvZeqCwwleCDXWKhd2TiTVFG2qgRGfXuMLK5knzuK3o+QZaz8k5UTf8iXGjxK QhmA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo256kVmj/TlGK0lSJh5Mi7mIpYZVtKL1jh7HqQveG7kz5MYrCCC M+fUKumLbBEGtAhKN63SXvEyGZp8yX7mcg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR4mSoRLGXLEeKxovmgbpEemkBNyiZm3m+hdRrGchkbQZHyniU7+YSbzseIggVVnDbRL8a7kKQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:2554:b0:450:28d2:2152 with SMTP id l20-20020a056402255400b0045028d22152mr22127626edb.303.1663077214274; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 06:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Mini.fritz.box (pd9e36665.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [217.227.102.101]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u16-20020a170906781000b0076feb45e2d7sm6064991ejm.135.2022.09.13.06.53.33 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 13 Sep 2022 06:53:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 13 Sep 2022 09:48:39 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:242372 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Gerd M=C3=B6llmann [2022-09-13 07:53:47] wrote: >> I really good default would indeed be a Good Thing. But, on the other >> hand, I think it's not likely that we find something that works for >> everyone all the time. > > Really? AFAICT noone has complained about the existing behavior (the > change under discussion was prompted by looking at the code, no?), so > what we currently have seems to work quite well "for everyone all the tim= e". True. I was thinking about "technically optimal" as good. There are other ways good can be considered good, of course :-).