From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14736: 24.3; "Insert" key results in question mark mouse cursor and does not send a keyboard event Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 21:41:10 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1832345773.5319.1372382464778.JavaMail.root@nerur.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1464727350 22428 80.91.229.3 (31 May 2016 20:42:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14736@debbugs.gnu.org To: Kumaran Santhanam Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 31 22:42:21 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b7qUR-0006qT-J5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 22:42:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38343 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b7qUQ-0003qb-Jo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 16:42:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49293) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b7qUI-0003oi-Gc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 16:42:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b7qUE-0006Ie-6W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 16:42:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:36413) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b7qUE-0006IN-3h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 16:42:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7qUD-0000Ms-N4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 16:42:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alan Third Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14736 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14736-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14736.14647272801367 (code B ref 14736); Tue, 31 May 2016 20:42:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14736) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2016 20:41:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48750 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7qTX-0000Ly-RD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 16:41:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:38041) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7qTV-0000Lm-JH for 14736@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 16:41:18 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-f46.google.com with SMTP id a20so734573wma.1 for <14736@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 31 May 2016 13:41:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=5JQcU2XV39zLugx9FJvGh5oL6U1K5LqTGebzAWnpJMo=; b=ZqlmM3UG2aQZK3/tLGzSNH3HIjsq/avjv2A+rYF+dPYy+/lU5xBF7MzgYphAxx/UFD eT5x6+Khr0wU7SnoMVAOiwhJlsCQjXwFssIU7GjoHPJFZvX2HaigspYFy1guauqVYUZV 3pofURZwHzFwB/yt7JZ4PvkdtQ10PbtGXDJo1EpcZTXif85alRCd4Vzh5zMKva8IUhxY OgCWgGErYoskwl0EiHRPPNydZTezA3rxigmVgy2EtGLn66hIMsKeq5YGIYW/1yLYqN0q z3yDYj3rHVdcNQoGMIsTFoz1pLxJdHRRfEot5aA3JvXf4XfJrHvZthHa8AXcgajBoHTH cjcQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=5JQcU2XV39zLugx9FJvGh5oL6U1K5LqTGebzAWnpJMo=; b=Gbpd52PSmpRUBECfB4WC0EAyfbWIsQvmf77lbH/AxFIiA9xMlFkYi8PzQQIBWDXNZa Uw7ufraBunTboO0B+SAExDn8dbEvMowLqn7AAKa46udlxM9idj4gahiCFJmTitXev9Tl L5/MxOI7fsQJfDx45e4aKh5Tcht0ZwKTM5L9e80Dp+Uy7VbQn450JQKPFsMjR+HFZFOX 13JVCz4GxXJvwZKJlKTAEI7RYYSGqN15IAkzaQpqGyLHhoCI6OUor4KFZCUpi6VN6mxk X0iuoc1c7o7NMBDeMxD9Mk63mkjg+CxAlZZU0GpSJUad51uqdFkmQAAqqeiVYog6NKBj O6IA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLDVrIdUVu5C1IlwknD4VyQxJNOFe0xqCUFiC34ibbuStufs5l1giXQyhncvt9JnQ== X-Received: by 10.28.62.69 with SMTP id l66mr17200719wma.70.1464727271878; Tue, 31 May 2016 13:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from breton.holly.idiocy.org (ip6-2001-08b0-03f8-8129-20c5-ff51-aaec-eb15.holly.idiocy.org. [2001:8b0:3f8:8129:20c5:ff51:aaec:eb15]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q189sm5103662wmd.19.2016.05.31.13.41.11 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 31 May 2016 13:41:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1832345773.5319.1372382464778.JavaMail.root@nerur.com> (Kumaran Santhanam's message of "Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:21:04 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (darwin) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:118904 Archived-At: Kumaran Santhanam writes: > On Mac OS X, the "Insert" key on external keyboards is mapped to > "Help". Therefore, when the "Insert" key is pressed, the mouse cursor > turns into a question mark and the key is not passed to Emacs to > process. This is problematic because users may have keybindings from > Linux and Windows that make use of the "Insert" key. Confirmed as still present in Emacs 25. Is there some use for the "help" key and question-mark pointer? Interestingly, it looks like on recent Apple keyboards "insert" is replaced with fn instead of help. -- Alan Third