From: Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 21428@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#21428: 24.5; Crash of emacs on OS X, installed via homebrew cask
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:50:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2pp00edir.fsf@krugs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83lhapbg5a.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 26 Oct 2015 21:09:53 +0200")
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de>
>> Cc: 21428@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 08:59:39 +0100
>>
>> the bug does not affect to many users (strange config? OS X?).
>
> It's not really true that it didn't affect others. We have in the bug
> tracker a few similar bug reports where an invalid face ID was the
> culprit, I believe they were caused by the same problem.
>
> It's true that these problems are rare. That's because, for this
> situation to happen, you need to have some to enable feature that can
> create new faces or change existing faces in code that is invoked by
> redisplay, for example some Lisp form that gets evaluated while
> displaying the mode line. When a face is created or changed, Emacs
> forgets all the cached faces (because a new/changed face could
> potentially require fresh realization of the faces that depend on the
> changed face, and Emacs doesn't track face dependencies and this
> cannot know which ones, if any, need to be recomputed). If this
> happens, and if Emacs also needs to redraw the portions of the display
> that used one of the "forgotten" faces, it crashes. So this requires
> a relatively rare combination of factors, and so went under the radar
> for a long time. I think it was exposed more lately because we
> consistently introduced more and more redisplay optimizations, which
> increased the probability of these rare situations because they allow
> Emacs to avoid examining faces in larger areas of its display, thus
> failing to recompute them after discarding the cached faces.
Thanks for the explanations - makes sense.
Cheers,
Rainer
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2015-09-07 10:08 bug#21428: 24.5; Crash of emacs on OS X, installed via homebrew cask Rainer M Krug
2015-09-07 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-07 17:46 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-08 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-09 7:39 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-09 8:42 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-11 9:50 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-21 8:42 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-21 9:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-21 10:00 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-21 10:19 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-21 10:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-21 11:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <m27fnkroj5.fsf@krugs.de>
[not found] ` <83y4g0m0js.fsf@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <m2y4g0q7fs.fsf@krugs.de>
2015-09-21 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-21 13:27 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-21 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-21 13:46 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-23 8:41 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-23 9:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-23 10:00 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-24 13:22 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-24 16:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-24 17:22 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-24 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-24 18:37 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-24 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-25 9:34 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-25 10:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-25 10:46 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-25 12:30 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-25 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-28 9:33 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-28 10:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-28 11:12 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-28 11:27 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-28 12:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-28 12:53 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-28 13:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-28 15:39 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-28 16:30 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-28 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-29 6:58 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-29 7:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-29 8:01 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-29 8:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-29 8:52 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-29 9:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-29 10:17 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-29 10:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-29 11:16 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-30 9:49 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-30 10:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-30 10:36 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-30 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-30 10:37 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-30 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 7:29 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-01 8:21 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-01 9:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 10:45 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-06 8:16 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-06 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-07 8:13 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-07 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-07 16:10 ` Rainer M Krug
[not found] ` <m2vba7dxds.fsf@krugs.de>
2015-10-16 18:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 19:22 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-17 12:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-22 14:28 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-22 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-22 16:22 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-22 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-22 17:32 ` martin rudalics
2015-10-22 17:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-22 18:14 ` martin rudalics
2015-10-22 20:04 ` Anders Lindgren
2015-10-22 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-23 9:51 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-23 10:44 ` Anders Lindgren
2015-10-23 11:03 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-23 9:52 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-23 8:02 ` martin rudalics
2015-10-23 18:01 ` martin rudalics
2015-10-23 9:49 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-23 18:01 ` martin rudalics
2015-10-23 9:45 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-23 18:01 ` martin rudalics
2015-10-23 9:41 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-25 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 7:59 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-26 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27 11:50 ` Rainer M Krug [this message]
2015-09-28 11:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-23 8:58 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-23 9:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-08 23:24 ` Glenn Morris
2015-09-09 7:39 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-09 4:32 ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-09-09 7:38 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-09-09 14:47 ` bug#21428: possible additional case for #21428: Emacs 24.5.1 on OSX, installed via homebrew Jason May
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