From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14518: C and Emacs Lisp code parts Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2016 15:36:35 -0700 Message-ID: References: <624c3d37-c829-7187-a699-7d7bbc211a20@online.de> <83ziq1u668.fsf@gnu.org> <20160701091653.GA2531@acm.fritz.box> <5fcdeec5-fcde-d0ab-e256-e1b2ceb40ccb@online.de> <83shvttsq6.fsf@gnu.org> <83shvmn7i1.fsf@gnu.org> <83a8hun3os.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467845338 32446 80.91.229.3 (6 Jul 2016 22:48:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 22:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14518@debbugs.gnu.org, andreas.roehler@online.de To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 07 00:48:47 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bKvcc-0002ze-5h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 00:48:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36213 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKvcb-0001hV-Im for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 18:48:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55776) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKvRK-0000TX-T2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 18:37:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKvRG-0000jm-NW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 18:37:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:55867) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKvRG-0000ji-Jj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 18:37:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bKvRG-0007Nt-FN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 18:37:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: John Wiegley Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2016 22:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14518 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14518-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14518.146784460628361 (code B ref 14518); Wed, 06 Jul 2016 22:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14518) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2016 22:36:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39971 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bKvR0-0007NM-9b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 18:36:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-f169.google.com ([209.85.192.169]:34021) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bKvQy-0007NA-Ek for 14518@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 18:36:44 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-f169.google.com with SMTP id h14so204595pfe.1 for <14518@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 15:36:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version; bh=7zuhcL7mUZTWJV1PtBCarYK0EEfeZoiftG/ZwuRWvZQ=; b=T7k0dtW8cHJ9DEX8AVSGYM5LnscVlmObDQYN9r9g4JImruIOWSBwAk05WX4aoMXCgo el/LXWR804EpZ5C7t26ToZTR0PW2GfG30+RX9rHWcblWBoz6q5Yni1MJ9u5NhY6PbQOD CkWYlAcxOLOyVNl39VCI4ppQlPxepI6JyXbMDd8fPvT4kAa6m09zOa/k0GZpABrok8Oe kvDbdXVU4TtA27G3ZTxnje7Hx4Tx5ZmxaUqmRw54aXrZGF/2mAoQNZZfZs+wsunVhLGi HRkubbwUsYZKLqrETgi3LN852nY4r2G9sH2Chtw5v39hmBezdzWGSFPZiFaIWZhkWflj OdHQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version; bh=7zuhcL7mUZTWJV1PtBCarYK0EEfeZoiftG/ZwuRWvZQ=; b=CPECGF7wrXDColAcgylmz70xWPbmqeJQ6vOW795gg0Rn94pkFFgAKsmDsi3DUQRLTi +ENjtyOHcySpj2+AOG5p1LwL178rVi0ZR8zmLFybcUBF8w2LmZU3s45cyA0rpqTiXjez n403nXbJYB9L4d5v4Qjf7e/5rLxwdeyUiX4i1P4JwzvjCxR4eHGlp9QbbraAZj5L/Vuc 5WZbphuTClDJKNPEZTooEJhDUvjeYaeRElJ9cIlwmpZwFpAGvDVhR1dfBlOSApt9Ff6E UXbRiQAzlfiuUVgLg8rhURfWEDIvpQ3DcY75/JmGGHTQR/8hJ/RZkHAoWr1J1/CY9JvK vRJw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLcEc2sZ9uDKoLDjl4RTv0jIfAevpAheP67R4cIw0Xxe0b+RKpqob05nFI69XEJCg== X-Received: by 10.98.20.216 with SMTP id 207mr46395644pfu.144.1467844598659; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 15:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a87sm6570955pfc.63.2016.07.06.15.36.37 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Jul 2016 15:36:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4264810043D1; Wed, 6 Jul 2016 15:36:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83a8hun3os.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 06 Jul 2016 19:15:15 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.95 (darwin) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:120537 Archived-At: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> IMO we should simply say: no, abbrevs will not move back to C. > We probably will. But the data presented by Andreas is strange, and I think > warrants at least a bit looking into. Who knows what we will find? Agreed. Andreas' problems may not even be a problem with abbrevs at all, but I'd very much like to know what is going on. Andreas, your .abbrev file doesn't live on an NFS mount or something crazy, does it? :) -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2