From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rudolf =?UTF-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22683: 25.1.50; auto-composition-mode Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:09:56 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83k0j2mxy9.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Rudolf =?UTF-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3287"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, stefan@marxist.se, rms@gnu.org, 22683@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 27 16:11:16 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mUrLe-0000Us-BV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:11:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36484 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUrLd-00017p-6F for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 10:11:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60210) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUrLS-00013Q-Co for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 10:11:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:58874) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUrLS-0004c7-2x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 10:11:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUrLR-0007BG-Ui for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 10:11:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Rudolf =?UTF-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 14:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22683 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 22683-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22683.163275181127503 (code B ref 22683); Mon, 27 Sep 2021 14:11:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22683) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Sep 2021 14:10:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42181 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUrKd-00079X-Bu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 10:10:11 -0400 Original-Received: from pv50p00im-zteg10011501.me.com ([17.58.6.42]:55673) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUrKb-00079D-Hi for 22683@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 10:10:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=me.com; s=1a1hai; t=1632751804; bh=r0zgn0Xm5wikK8MyI1vXibY1oEoqxKAnO4Pt0uM0Pro=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VSTImuUlVr55CnXQ3D67YHnZt+JVsY7zcyEFz86qHXityzJif6uhMPx6dQi7yJNl/ j2g426AEoy3DdQ+AfdhcRT1JVCA3k56s12cYUdCO49cifzvbAHhOMXztOoTakLeYYK NYeNIvlPlVD8Vw8oWzffsBjTeRPg2Rmu5hoEoVa3tHlfb496XdiNpSBewEL83JQSYO 28eCv+/gKdqU1YKjUwFRAe8rB9mawVgcwBdIDBAhfluFJpEK5l2m8rIHg5zjDk+f6Y bChzdwq2tmZ8pul+XuhySe5tYPmmvgjLGjHyzzlA2iM/Xh5/MH6Rm5t+h6iPoiej5X /wBW3vJbivvwQ== Original-Received: from Workstation.local (78-141-116-131.dynamic.orange.sk [78.141.116.131]) by pv50p00im-zteg10011501.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C910CB0059E; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 14:09:59 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83k0j2mxy9.fsf@gnu.org> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.391, 18.0.790 definitions=2021-09-27_06:2021-09-24, 2021-09-27 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=723 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2009150000 definitions=main-2109270098 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215668 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > We don't always expect our users to be proficient in theoretical=20 > logics. Interesting. From my experience, young children in elementary=20 school can follow the logic behind "if positive, =E2=80=A6 otherwise =E2=80= =A6" A=20 plain, well-placed "otherwise" simplifies the involved "if=20 positive =E2=80=A6 if negative or zero =E2=80=A6" statement, no? Either way= , I=20 agree with RMS that we should account for the entire set of=20 integers with perfect clarity, one way or the other. BTW, other modes in Emacs have the same problem. From=20 "global-visual-line-mode" help: > Enable the mode if ARG is nil, omitted, or is a positive number.=20 > Disable the mode if ARG is a negative number. R+ --=20 Programming reliably --- must be an activity of an undeniably=20 mathematical nature [...] You see, mathematics is about thinking,=20 and doing mathematics is always trying to think as well as=20 possible. -- Edsger W. Dijkstra (1981) Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D=20 Studenohorsk=C3=A1 25 84103 Bratislava Slovakia=20 [he/him]