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[79.227.160.173]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id jg15-20020a170907970f00b00a45c8b6e965sm2568361ejc.3.2024.03.11.00.01.04 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 11 Mar 2024 00:01:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: ("Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?="'s message of "Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:28:02 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:281455 Archived-At: Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd writes: > Instead of inventing a new and rather meaningless function name, I > suggest we re-use `sort` and allow both > > (sort seq lessp) ; old-style > (sort seq &key key lessp destructive) ; new-style FWIW, I wouldn't like overloading the name 'sort', because it feels like magic happening. A new name would make things explicit - no magic. Otherwise, I can't say much. The destructiveness of sort/stable-sort has actually never been a problem for me. It has instead often been just right, when consing a sequence and sorting it in the end.