bug#21284: 25.0.50; `completion-file-name-table' should/not use `nreverse'?

bug#21284: 25.0.50; `completion-file-name-table' should/not use `nreverse'?

[Keith David Bershatsky]

The function `completion-file-name-table' uses `(setq all (nreverse comp))' instead of `(setq all comp)'.

This has the effect of reversing what was accomplished when `pcomplete-compare-entry-function' is set to `'string-lessp'.

In a nutshell, the completions are in reverse alphabetical order as a result of `(setq all (nreverse comp))'.

This was tested in an eshell buffer by typing at a prompt:  rm [space tab]; and, with `lawlist-eshell-cmpl-compare-entry-function` set to `'string-lessp'.

Thanks,

Keith

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bug#21284: 25.0.50; `completion-file-name-table' should/not use `nreverse'?

[Marcin Borkowski]

On 2015-08-17, at 10:25, Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com> wrote:

> The function `completion-file-name-table' uses `(setq all (nreverse comp))' instead of `(setq all comp)'.
>
> This has the effect of reversing what was accomplished when `pcomplete-compare-entry-function' is set to `'string-lessp'.
>
> In a nutshell, the completions are in reverse alphabetical order as a result of `(setq all (nreverse comp))'.
>
> This was tested in an eshell buffer by typing at a prompt:  rm [space tab]; and, with `lawlist-eshell-cmpl-compare-entry-function` set to `'string-lessp'.

Hi,

I tried to reproduce it on GNU Emacs 25.1.50.9 (commit fafdfcb) and
failed.  However, I'm not sure whether I understood your report
correctly.  My Emacs doesn't seem to have
`lawlist-eshell-cmpl-compare-entry-function', only
`eshell-cmpl-compare-entry-function'.  Did you mean that variable?
I tried to set it to `'string-lessp', but nothing seemed to change after
"rm [space] [tab]" in Eshell.

> Thanks,
>
> Keith

Best,

-- 
Marcin

bug#21284: 25.0.50; `completion-file-name-table' should/not use `nreverse'?

[Keith David Bershatsky]

Thank you, Marcin, for taking a look at 21284.

I apologize for mislabeling the variable.  It turns out that the same erroneous behavior is observable with Emacs -Q.  The `*Completions*` are in reverse alphabetical order.

Step 1:  Launch the graphical version of Emacs -Q.

Step 2:  M-x eshell

Step 3:  cd to a directory containing files and folders with a variety of different names beginning with letters a to z.

Step 4:  type rm

Step 5:  hit the space bar

Step 6:  hit the tab key

Step 7:  The *Completions* are in reverse alphabetical order.

Thanks,

Keith

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> Hi,
> 
> I tried to reproduce it on GNU Emacs 25.1.50.9 (commit fafdfcb) and
> failed.  However, I'm not sure whether I understood your report
> correctly.  My Emacs doesn't seem to have
> `lawlist-eshell-cmpl-compare-entry-function', only
> `eshell-cmpl-compare-entry-function'.  Did you mean that variable?
> I tried to set it to `'string-lessp', but nothing seemed to change after
> "rm [space] [tab]" in Eshell.
> 
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Keith
> 
> Best,
> 
> -- 
> Marcin

bug#21284: 25.0.50; `completion-file-name-table' should/not use `nreverse'?

[Noam Postavsky]

tag 21284 unreproducible
quit

I'm getting completions in what looks like a random order, here are
the first few lines for completions in the emacs src directory:

Possible completions are:
undo.o     ChangeLog.12     eval.o     insdel.o
xfaces.o     sysdep.o     category.o     marker.o
search.c     ChangeLog.10     fontset.o     dynlib.h
kqueue.c     deps/     lastfile.o     dired.o
insdel.c     w32fns.c     textprop.o     xselect.c
inotify.c     doprnt.c     cmds.c     xdisp.c
data.o     fontset.c     xsettings.h     character.o
keymap.c     xsettings.o     emacsgtkfixed.h     systime.h
syntax.h     bytecode.o     character.h     deps.mk

bug#21284: 25.0.50; `completion-file-name-table' should/not use `nreverse'?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net>
> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 22:50:10 -0400
> Cc: Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com>, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
> I'm getting completions in what looks like a random order, here are
> the first few lines for completions in the emacs src directory:

I suspect that there's a hidden factor here: the order in which the
'readdir' libc function returns the directory entries.  On GNU/Linux,
the order is arbitrary (AFAIK, it's the order of the entries in the
directory file).  On MS-Windows, the order is alphabetic, so reversing
will produce the reverse alphabetic order.  I don't know what happens
on OS X.

bug#21284: 25.0.50; `completion-file-name-table' should/not use `nreverse'?

[Keith David Bershatsky]

I am on OS X and the default sort order is alphabetic, which gets reversed by `completion-file-name-table` because it uses `nreverse'.

Keith

At Mon, 06 Jun 2016 17:43:04 +0300,
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> . . .
> 
> I suspect that there's a hidden factor here: the order in which the
> 'readdir' libc function returns the directory entries.  On GNU/Linux,
> the order is arbitrary (AFAIK, it's the order of the entries in the
> directory file).  On MS-Windows, the order is alphabetic, so reversing
> will produce the reverse alphabetic order.  I don't know what happens
> on OS X.

bug#21284: 25.0.50; `completion-file-name-table' should/not use `nreverse'?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date:  Mon, 06 Jun 2016 09:19:07 -0700
> From:  Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com>
> Cc:  21284@debbugs.gnu.org,Noam Postavsky <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net>,Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
> 
> I am on OS X and the default sort order is alphabetic, which gets reversed by `completion-file-name-table` because it uses `nreverse'.

Then what exactly is the problem here?  Emacs doesn't know in what
order the files are returned, it considers the order random.
Reversing a randomly ordered list produces another randomly ordered
list.  Applications that need to present the list in some specific
order need to do that explicitly.  For example, "C-x C-f TAB TAB" does
display the files in alphabetic order for me, not in reverse
alphabetic order.

bug#21284: 25.0.50; `completion-file-name-table' should/not use `nreverse'?

[Keith David Bershatsky]

If there is/are valid reason(s) to reverse the order, then perhaps consider mentioning one or more of those reasons in a comment within `completion-file-name-table' along with a mention of bug 21284.

If there is no valid reason whatsoever to reverse the order, then perhaps consider removing `nreverse` from `completion-file-name-table`.

If the issue is "de minimus", then the bug report can be closed without further ado.

Keith

At Mon, 06 Jun 2016 21:50:05 +0300,
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> . . .
> 
> Then what exactly is the problem here?  Emacs doesn't know in what
> order the files are returned, it considers the order random.
> Reversing a randomly ordered list produces another randomly ordered
> list.  Applications that need to present the list in some specific
> order need to do that explicitly.  For example, "C-x C-f TAB TAB" does
> display the files in alphabetic order for me, not in reverse
> alphabetic order.

bug#21284: 25.0.50; `completion-file-name-table' should/not use `nreverse'?

[Noam Postavsky]

tag 21284 - unreproducible
severity 21284 minor
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> I suspect that there's a hidden factor here: the order in which the
> 'readdir' libc function returns the directory entries.  On GNU/Linux,
> the order is arbitrary (AFAIK, it's the order of the entries in the
> directory file).  On MS-Windows, the order is alphabetic, so reversing
> will produce the reverse alphabetic order.  I don't know what happens
> on OS X.

Oh yeah, I see reversed order on Windows.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com> wrote:
> I am on OS X and the default sort order is alphabetic, which gets reversed by `completion-file-name-table` because it uses `nreverse'.

Actually, the result from `file-name-all-completions` is already
reversed. `completion-file-name-table` then reverses it twice: once in
the loop (dolist (tem all) (... (push tem comp))), and the `nreverse`
call to undo it.

bug#21284: 25.0.50; `completion-file-name-table' should/not use `nreverse'?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date:  Mon, 06 Jun 2016 13:00:40 -0700
> From:  Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com>
> Cc:  21284@debbugs.gnu.org,Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>,Noam Postavsky <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net>
> 
> If there is/are valid reason(s) to reverse the order, then perhaps consider mentioning one or more of those reasons in a comment within `completion-file-name-table' along with a mention of bug 21284.
> 
> If there is no valid reason whatsoever to reverse the order, then perhaps consider removing `nreverse` from `completion-file-name-table`.
> 
> If the issue is "de minimus", then the bug report can be closed without further ado.

I believe the reason is the usual one: we create the list by pushing
each new element onto it, so the result comes in reverse order of the
files.  The call to nreverse then restores the original order.  IOW,
this is an implementation detail.

bug#21284: 25.0.50; `completion-file-name-table' should/not use `nreverse'?

[Noam Postavsky]

retitle 21284 eshell does not sort completion candidates
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> Then what exactly is the problem here?  Emacs doesn't know in what
> order the files are returned, it considers the order random.
> Reversing a randomly ordered list produces another randomly ordered
> list.  Applications that need to present the list in some specific
> order need to do that explicitly.  For example, "C-x C-f TAB TAB" does
> display the files in alphabetic order for me, not in reverse
> alphabetic order.

So the problem is that eshell's completion doesn't sort its candidates.

bug#21284: eshell does not sort completion candidates

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com> writes:

> Step 1:  Launch the graphical version of Emacs -Q.
>
> Step 2:  M-x eshell
>
> Step 3: cd to a directory containing files and folders with a variety
> of different names beginning with letters a to z.
>
> Step 4:  type rm
>
> Step 5:  hit the space bar
>
> Step 6:  hit the tab key
>
> Step 7:  The *Completions* are in reverse alphabetical order.

(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
at the time.)

I tried to reproduce this in Emacs 29, but was unable to.  Are you still
seeing this problem in recent Emacs versions?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

bug#21284: eshell does not sort completion candidates

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I tried to reproduce this in Emacs 29, but was unable to.  Are you still
> seeing this problem in recent Emacs versions?

More information was requested, but no response was given within a
month, so I'm closing this bug report.  If the problem still exists,
please respond to this email and we'll reopen the bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no