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[76.234.69.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t16sm6305610pfj.96.2017.08.29.12.32.38 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Aug 2017 12:32:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2C3318D0E276; Tue, 29 Aug 2017 12:32:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 29 Aug 2017 15:20:23 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:136355 Archived-At: >>>>> "GM" == Glenn Morris writes: GM> A few seconds grep suggests this is due to the code in newline, added ~ 3 GM> years ago in 62ee8b1 ("Add assertions to try and help catch bug#18913"). GM> The complete lack of progress in that report since then suggests it may be GM> time to remove/downgrade those assertions. Agreed. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2