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[2003:e0:b713:7300:7113:9a27:8fc5:18ee]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-aab9638ec3dsm72977166b.150.2024.12.14.01.40.51 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:40:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86ldwiwvjc.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:52:55 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:297025 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Filipp Gunbin >> Cc: shipmints@gmail.com, 74833@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:32:39 +0300 >> >> On 13/12/2024 18:49 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> >> From: Filipp Gunbin >> >> Cc: Ship Mints , 74833@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:35:15 +0300 >> >> >> >> On 13/12/2024 09:21 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> >> >> > So why is this an Emacs bug? It sounds like the OP expects something >> >> > to happen which shouldn't, because the xterm protocol for selections >> >> > and the clipboard are not supported by Terminal.app? In that case, >> >> > this could be at best a feature request, not a bug. >> >> >> >> I'll try to explain differently. >> >> >> >> Without xterm-mouse-mode you can copy/paste from/into Terminal.app >> >> window, looks like Terminal.app gives this ability on its own. This is >> >> not integration with Emacs kill ring, no. Emacs cursor does not react >> >> to mouse clicks, and selection happens with OS mouse pointer. Paste >> >> works rather slow (bad idea to paste large chunks of text), but >> >> tolerable. >> >> >> >> Now, yesterday my daily master build got me xterm-mouse-mode enabled, so >> >> I did some testing just out of curiosity. Most of the things work, >> >> including clicking and selection. However, Command-C now just doesn't >> >> copy text to OS clipboard. And it's non-obvious that you should disable >> >> xterm-mouse-mode to be able to copy. >> > >> > xterm-mouse-mode is supposed to be enabled only on terminals that load >> > xterm.el, which means they are xterm-compatible. Does Terminal.app >> > load xterm.el on startup? >> >> Terminal.app sets TERM=xterm-256color (this is configurable in "Settings >> -> Profiles -> Advanced -> Declare terminal as", I doubt I ever changed >> it), so xterm.el should be loaded, yes. >> >> Other term-related vars are: >> >> TERM_PROGRAM=Apple_Terminal >> TERM_PROGRAM_VERSION=453 >> TERM_SESSION_ID=1251C872-8246-4380-A2AE-ED1F8B649878 > > Then we should amend xterm.el to not allow xterm-mouse on this > terminal. Jared, could you please add such a condition? > > And I think the Terminal.app developers should be told that pretending > to be xterm without full support for all the xterm features is not > TRT, and they should stop. Would someone please file an issue with > their issue tracker? I still think that this is a cockpit error. Terminal.app's Command-C can only copy a selection that the app knows about. If the mouse is used by an app like Emacs (Terminal.app's Settings/Report ....)) the user tells Terminal to let the app use the mouse. I find it little surprising that when Terminal.app does that, it doesn't use the mouse itself to make a selection it could then copy. Do Command-A Command-C and see what happens. Or use Command-R to toggle the mouse reporting setting on the fly. Or use xclip in Emacs. Please don't disable xterm-mouse for this.