From: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 75275@debbugs.gnu.org, alan@idiocy.org, stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: bug#75275: 30.0.92; `make-thread` bug on macOS 15.2
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 11:04:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2ldvtilb8.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86y0ztk323.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 02 Jan 2025 10:55:32 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
>> Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, alan@idiocy.org, 75275@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 09:41:38 +0100
>>
>> Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> >
>> >> So should we add a condition before calling [NSApp run] that we are in
>> >> the main thread?
>> >
>> > ATM, I don't understand how we land in that line in ns_select_1 if not
>> > [NSThread isMainThread]. Maybe I need new glasses. I asked Stefan if he
>> > can see something in LLDB.
>>
>> It must something in here:
>>
>> if (![NSThread isMainThread]
>> || (timeout && timeout->tv_sec == 0 && timeout->tv_nsec == 0))
>> thread_select (pselect, nfds, readfds, writefds,
>> exceptfds, timeout, sigmask);
>>
>> Should we return here?
>
> I don't know. Is there anything in the following code that can be
> relevant to a non-main thread? Note that non-main threads can
> legitimately call wait_reading_process_output, which calls ns_select.
> For example, what happens if a non-main Lisp thread starts a
> sub-process? we do expect to be able to read the output from that
> sub-process.
Really hard to tell. Perhaps someone could try to follow what I write
below and tell if it makes sense? Everything in ns_select_1.
1. I think this code must run in a non-main thread:
if (nr > 0)
{
pthread_mutex_lock (&select_mutex);
... set some variables ...
/* Inform fd_handler that select should be called. */
c = 'g';
emacs_write_sig (selfds[1], &c, 1);
}
selfds is apparently some pipe, NS-specific. The function fd_handler is
called when writing to the pipe I assume. fd_handler is set up like
this
[NSThread detachNewThreadSelector:@selector (fd_handler:)
toTarget:NSApp
withObject:nil];
Looks to me like it runs in a thread of its own. fd_handler then
pselects on the fd sets set in the if above. That looks like it is
relevant to reading process output. And that means we may _not_ return
from ns_select_1 early when ![NSThread isMainThread].
else if (nr == 0 && timeout)
{
/* No file descriptor, just a timeout, no need to wake fd_handler. */
double time = timespectod (*timeout);
timed_entry = [[NSTimer scheduledTimerWithTimeInterval: time
target: NSApp
selector:
@selector (timeout_handler:)
userInfo: 0
repeats: NO]
retain];
}
2. This code
else if (nr == 0 && timeout)
{
/* No file descriptor, just a timeout, no need to wake fd_handler. */
double time = timespectod (*timeout);
timed_entry = [[NSTimer scheduledTimerWithTimeInterval: time
target: NSApp
selector:
@selector (timeout_handler:)
userInfo: 0
repeats: NO]
retain];
}
means basically only to send an app-defined event after a timeout. I
interpret this as "leave the NS event loop to let Emacs do things
after a timeout". Looks okay to me.
3. This
else /* No timeout and no file descriptors, can this happen? */
{
/* Send appdefined so we exit from the loop. */
ns_send_appdefined (-1);
}
is likely also okay because send_app_defined has code checking for
being in the main thread.
4. The [NSApp run] follows, and it can under no circumstances be done
in a mon-main thread. We should put that in an if for sure.
if ([NSThread isMainThread]) [NSApp run];
5. The code below is another enigma.
I can't figure out why that is done, and what
last_appdefined_event_data is for. But since it is run today, I'd
propose to just let it run. I don't see that it does immediate harm.
:-/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-02 10:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-02 4:57 bug#75275: 30.0.92; `make-thread` bug on macOS 15.2 Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 5:46 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 5:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 6:47 ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 7:12 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 14:35 ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 14:38 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 14:45 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 15:19 ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 16:06 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 16:47 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 17:09 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 17:25 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 17:42 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 17:48 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 17:37 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 17:46 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 17:52 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 19:26 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 19:59 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 16:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 7:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 7:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 7:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 7:30 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 8:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 8:33 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 8:41 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 8:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 10:04 ` Gerd Möllmann [this message]
2025-01-02 11:03 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 13:05 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 13:53 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 14:03 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 14:17 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 15:37 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 15:55 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 16:08 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 8:51 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 7:31 ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 8:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 10:31 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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