From: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
To: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Jared Finder <jared@finder.org>,
74833@debbugs.gnu.org, shipmints@gmail.com
Subject: bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 18:30:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2jzbzfscp.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1pllrtwq1.fsf@fastmail.fm> (Filipp Gunbin's message of "Mon, 16 Dec 2024 19:32:22 +0300")
Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm> writes:
>> Terminal.app's Command-C can only copy a selection that the app knows
>> about.
>
> Not really - with xterm-mouse-mode disabled (and with "Allow mouse
> reporting" ticked in Terminal.app menu), mouse selection in Terminal.app
> is not related to Emacs selection, and copy / paste works.
What I meant with my sentence is that the selection Emacs shows and the
selection Terminal.app shows and uses are not related to each other.
Maybe that's a cause of confusion, I don't know.
>
>> If the mouse is used by an app like Emacs (Terminal.app's
>> Settings/Report ....)) the user tells Terminal to let the app use the mouse.
>> I find it little surprising that when Terminal.app does that, it doesn't
>> use the mouse itself to make a selection it could then copy.
>
> It does, although that's Terminal.app's "own" selection, not Emacs's.
>
>> Do Command-A Command-C and see what happens.
>>
>> Or use Command-R to toggle the mouse reporting setting on the fly.
>>
>> Or use xclip in Emacs.
>>
>> Please don't disable xterm-mouse for this.
>
> Again, it turns out that the new default leads to copy not working at
> all, while with previous default you could make selection in
> Terminal.app (it's not reflected in Emacs) and then copy. Paste works
> in both cases. It still looks to me that the old default is better. If
> you enable xterm-mouse-mode, then perhaps you should also use xclip, not
> just the mode itself.
Mouse support by default is an important feature, IMO. It makes the menu
bar usable, or in a future Emacs containing tty child frames tooltips
can be shown. Not to mention setting point and what else.
What's the positive effect of turning mouse support off by default?
Command-C works for users who haven't set up terminal Emacs well enough
that they could use M-w, plus in addition don't know Terminal.app well
enough to know about Command-R or Fn + mouse.
I think it's best if we simply agree to disagree.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-16 17:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-12 17:54 bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-12 18:08 ` Ship Mints
2024-12-12 18:18 ` Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-12 18:20 ` Ship Mints
2024-12-12 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-12 19:18 ` Ship Mints
2024-12-12 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-12 20:07 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-12 20:31 ` Ship Mints
2024-12-13 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-13 14:46 ` Ship Mints
2024-12-13 16:35 ` Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-13 16:42 ` Ship Mints
2024-12-13 16:52 ` Ship Mints
2024-12-13 20:46 ` Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-13 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-13 20:32 ` Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-13 20:54 ` Ship Mints
2024-12-14 7:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-14 9:40 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-16 16:32 ` Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-16 17:30 ` Gerd Möllmann [this message]
2024-12-16 17:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-16 17:53 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-16 19:09 ` Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-16 19:20 ` Ship Mints
2024-12-16 19:57 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-16 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-16 20:07 ` Ship Mints
2024-12-16 20:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-16 19:53 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-16 20:25 ` Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-16 20:29 ` Ship Mints
2024-12-12 19:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-16 1:41 ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-16 3:40 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-16 5:16 ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-16 16:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-16 16:47 ` Ship Mints
2024-12-16 17:36 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-16 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-16 16:49 ` Filipp Gunbin
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