From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20322: 25.0.50; indent-tabs-mode should default to nil Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 20:47:23 -0800 Message-ID: References: <861tjn3069.fsf@yandex.ru> <552D20B6.8030005@yandex.ru> <83mw2abul3.fsf@gnu.org> <552D34BC.4090806@yandex.ru> <83h9sibt0q.fsf@gnu.org> <552D7796.2090109@yandex.ru> <567EA3EB.7030007@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451450910 14906 80.91.229.3 (30 Dec 2015 04:48:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 04:48:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20322@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 30 05:48:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aE8gH-0004bw-Lo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 05:48:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51133 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aE8gD-0006Ek-8q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 23:48:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35278) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aE8g9-0006Ee-OO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 23:48:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aE8g6-00056Y-DE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 23:48:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:41640) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aE8g6-00056L-9J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 23:48:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aE8g6-0006lL-17 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 23:48:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: John Wiegley Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 04:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20322 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20322-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20322.145145085825961 (code B ref 20322); Wed, 30 Dec 2015 04:48:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20322) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2015 04:47:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49242 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aE8fi-0006kf-6Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 23:47:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-f175.google.com ([209.85.192.175]:34791) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aE8fg-0006kN-6y for 20322@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 23:47:37 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-f175.google.com with SMTP id e65so83973681pfe.1 for <20322@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 20:47:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=0SgwqiS2LEhh+2aEOGOUzuogSWU0b6gg7UehIUcvN78=; b=cMBt/BxgyyBO0e0wf4lU+aOGMdCeNRW1GdhLM7X116QNXNfphn4SP4Slutoa0hU/8u Eo2+rhvcIW0luFIINcxSoUlbr2Y2ujYTTHtCzNpYqgTxv/rVDWJH8Dq/vRxJE4fqe5mm Ad1MaFIgNz4bcs2jmXKxtXPwx1F2ElxmmDaj2zQ0gSwm+c4X6rPAW7aIsrWl/Y/7+VDR jfAQk9AiL54rxluhUj9PQfG38y2ZxAQRw7IOVc6VO+FgCAP3nPSvb5OTKQAWZw0sMKKP Xs6sSDk95CSgYoOr4JnzpPrVLxPeQD66PO3Jf7591wqU3IRE7lD/DvLscCIe5ZF9XJp+ L8mA== X-Received: by 10.98.14.145 with SMTP id 17mr91365984pfo.145.1451450849297; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 20:47:29 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v10sm33704975pfi.32.2015.12.29.20.47.27 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Dec 2015 20:47:27 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id E945111BD26CE; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 20:47:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <567EA3EB.7030007@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sat, 26 Dec 2015 16:27:55 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:111004 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> Dmitry Gutov writes: > Here's another recent analysis: > http://ukupat.github.io/tabs-or-spaces/ Dmitry, as much as I'd like to make TAB insert spaces as the default, this = is a really, REALLY old default, and I don't think we're going to gain anything major by changing it. We're also going to annoy a huge host of users who actually need tabs in places where they presently have no configuration because Emacs just "does what they expect" right now. So unless there is a really compelling argument for a change at this time, = I'd like to close this as "wontfix". =2D-=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJWg2HbAAoJEMFE2PTxn+YwW6YL/j5rLtFRWUP8VZqpL99OQsCa 2u5+ZD+UakziYdnDN0KpQFPAp8tbDJdJX6SdJZkiL4T0FOxZCxgjmIiDetdlbTII WcagNlI7eD/yY/6GknRHrylF1ZFsxjtvQ3Ow3h49yVwSnfQ564pi6N8Zrl7k2cOM kHsh7uzGBL6NZwaWnwhHG+2oBRZxQV1pkDh/QnPudHvGB2HS5y5XzXwQRwryApPY OwbLQhLy9aN21QXXOaVfsQC57j/HvH+IN2jtcTuEG/yBQYBqroXnVN+fUIfzBb+O ULrTK4QtyQ2+1VvARvv+MiJwT9SbliwmWyUcei0TgPAAZblMAc2URFC4hcWYY6qb Mw+QySQ293961cmtYJmwmunZcvkhY0xqz41keB2ZNPbi94D1myaG8Td1LjaMgBG+ ytzbHCs0s8hszxO/W0WBwHmM7LPFht2Ren3gn026cMLR8ih7s95sargjjGGdqBS6 jiS93/wH2s5haFjDUd9vIig+nMpLTAiuEi6kHj0Elw== =39I+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--