From: Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: 16377@debbugs.gnu.org, Barry OReilly <gundaetiapo@gmail.com>,
Toby Cubitt <toby-undo-tree@dr-qubit.org>
Subject: bug#16377: Undo Tree regression: (error "Unrecognized entry in undo list undo-tree-canary")
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2017 23:25:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2eftudqux.wl%esq@lawlist.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFM41H1VcYe=_nj3s1et+JKWNmgjkrsQN=XoT8KzCofHHToivw@mail.gmail.com>
Thank you for the helpful critique to substitute `window-buffer` for `get-window-buffer`.
I like to keep `debug-on-error` always set to `t`, and known situations I generally limit to showing me just a message in the echo area with the name of the function that generated it. That's why I've been using the `quit` signal instead of popping open a `*Backrace*` buffer for familiar situations.
The code that the Emacs team implemented in response to bug#25599 is probably fine. I just hadn't seen that before today, and my code predates its implementation.
Substituting the `warn` pop-up buffer for a plain old `message` was just a matter of personal preference. Nothing substantive there was intended.
The existence and discussion surrounding `undo-tree.el` predates my usage of that library, but from what I can tell, at some point in the past `primitive-undo' was "improved" to start checking for errors and this resulted in bug #16377. From an untrained layman's way of thinking, I am "guessing" that if undo-tree worked fine before `primitive-undo` was modified to throw an error, then perhaps it is not "a problem" with undo-tree except to the extent that undo-tree may need to "evolve" to play nice with the current version of `primitive-undo`. Based on that "optional evolution theory", I created the workaround to just throw an informative message instead of an error. However, I do not know if that approach could lead to problems.
I've spent quite a bit of time studying certain sections of the undo-tree.el library, but there are sections of the code that are still "Greek to me". My understanding of the `undo-tree-canary` symbol inside the `buffer-undo-list` is that it is a way for undo-tree to check if it has interacted with the `buffer-undo-list`. If the canary is not there, then handle the situation differently. If the canary is there, then process the `buffer-undo-list` until reaching the canary. It could be any arbitrary symbol so long as it remains at the tail end of the `buffer-undo-list` with a `nil` before it while undo-tree is being used in the buffer. There is only one situation I am aware of where the `undo-tree-canary` disappears, and it happens sometimes with garbage collection (bug #27214). Whate
ver symbol is used, it needs to remain in the `buffer-undo-list` until `undo-tree-mode` is deactivated. I suppose the design could have been different, but Dr. Cubitt probably had several additiona
l reasons for using a constant symbol such as the `undo-tree-canary`.
Bug #16377 might very well be resolvable by tweaking/fixing undo-tree.el; however, the undo/redo in region code is still a few light years beyond my present abilities.
Keith
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> > + (_
> > + (if (eq next 'undo-tree-canary)
> > + (message "undo-tree--primitive-undo: catch-all found `%s'." next)
> > + (error "Unrecognized entry in undo list %S" next)))))
>
> This might make sense to work around the problem, but is clearly not an
> actual fix. IIUC Tony said it looked like a bug in undo-tree.
> Has there been any progress on finding/fixing the bug there?
> What is this "canary" meant to do? If it shouldn't signal an error
> here, maybe rather than the constant `undo-tree-canary`, undo-tree
> should use another constant value, i.e. one that is a valid (and
> harmless) undo entry.
>
>
> Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-06 6:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-07 0:32 bug#16377: Undo Tree regression: (error "Unrecognized entry in undo list undo-tree-canary") Barry OReilly
2014-01-07 4:14 ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-22 3:23 ` Barry OReilly
2014-01-22 17:08 ` bug#16523: " Toby Cubitt
2014-01-08 3:37 ` bug#16377: " Toby Cubitt
2014-01-22 0:05 ` Barry OReilly
[not found] ` <20140122141701.GA6728@c3po>
2014-01-22 15:26 ` Barry OReilly
2014-01-22 17:05 ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-22 18:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-22 21:30 ` Toby Cubitt
2017-07-06 0:33 ` Keith David Bershatsky
2017-07-06 5:01 ` Keith David Bershatsky
2017-07-06 5:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-06 6:25 ` Keith David Bershatsky [this message]
2017-07-06 9:02 ` Toby Cubitt
2017-07-06 9:47 ` Toby Cubitt
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