From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YE via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56870: [PATCH] Re: bug#56870: company-dabbrev variable documentation Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2022 15:42:15 +0300 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: YE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18106"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: matt@rfc20.org, yet@ego.team, uzibalqa@proton.me, larsi@gnus.org, 56870@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 06 14:43:11 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oKJ94-0004Ve-ST for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2022 14:43:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44188 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oKJ93-000638-D9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2022 08:43:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55866) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oKJ8w-00062y-3L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2022 08:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43234) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oKJ8v-0002ac-QT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2022 08:43:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oKJ8v-0000jA-Kj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2022 08:43:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: YE Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2022 12:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 56870 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 56870-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B56870.16597897412747 (code B ref 56870); Sat, 06 Aug 2022 12:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 56870) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2022 12:42:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32983 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oKJ8H-0000iE-BS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2022 08:42:21 -0400 Original-Received: from out1.migadu.com ([91.121.223.63]:11210) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oKJ8E-0000i3-Cn for 56870@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2022 08:42:20 -0400 X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ego.team; s=key1; t=1659789737; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to; bh=+khSMlGZvhb462BzluOhkmXIZU4r5pzfus/PW71INkA=; b=WHsF/qnziwI2hapGNHhv7ZhX9N8azS1MbzO2ItCVmroGiCrOkqkqG8o/fJyWnC3lKZqimI 7NJwWjZjidSsu04cFE4Uq1s9BvX2r6Drq42NXqlp/mJ352cRQj8FYpoUuSx0X+FvEmzgoQ Pf2P5GavT/fGPc1QA4qW4DltJr/edrY= In-Reply-To: <83a68j0wwy.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 05 Aug 2022 14:09:17 +0300) X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Migadu-Auth-User: ego.team X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" X-ACL-Warn: , YE Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:238980 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain >> Eli Zaretskii: >> From: YE >> Which part _exactly_ you don't find suitable for the Emacs manual? > > All of it. You explain some basics of Emacs Lisp, which any user who > is serious about customizing his/her Emacs should already know about, > by reading the relevant parts of the ELisp manual. >> Don't Symbols deserve the same attention as Numbers, Strings, >> Characters described extensively in `(emacs) Init Syntax'? > > No, I don't think so. And this is a slippery slope anyway, because > there's more about Lisp objects than just telling what you suggest to > tell. >> What part of the patch touches the "complex Lisp"? > > Why does this text have to talk about doc strings, and what does it > have to do with the syntax of the init file? And the node to which > you refer is a large and complex node, which is too much for simple > customizations that Init Syntax intends to cover. > Thank you for the detailed response. >> From: Matt Armstrong >> Eli, perhaps a single link to the ELisp manual near the beginning of >> "(emacs) Init Syntax" would be acceptable? > > Yes, that's a better idea. One more tiny patch is attached. It links 'Init Syntax' to the ELisp manual Introduction node. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0001-Link-from-emacs-Init-Syntax-to-elisp-Introduction.patch Content-Description: Link from Init Syntax to ELisp Introduction >From 68a2732383e48096296da208215590c5afc62971 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: YugaEgo Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2022 15:20:09 +0300 Subject: [PATCH] Link from (emacs)Init Syntax to (elisp)Introduction * doc/emacs/custom.texi (Init Syntax): Link to the ELisp manual (Bug#56870) --- doc/emacs/custom.texi | 3 +++ 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+) diff --git a/doc/emacs/custom.texi b/doc/emacs/custom.texi index 6ed43bcb79..efaf0dfd38 100644 --- a/doc/emacs/custom.texi +++ b/doc/emacs/custom.texi @@ -2452,6 +2452,9 @@ Init Syntax Write a single-quote (@code{'}) followed by the Lisp object you want. @end table + For more information on the Emacs Lisp syntax, @pxref{Introduction,,, +elisp, The Emacs Lisp Reference Manual}. + @node Init Examples @subsection Init File Examples -- 2.34.1 --=-=-=--