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From: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>
To: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
Cc: 22392@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22392: 25.0.50; NS Emacs run from OS X GUI doesn't set locale
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:12:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2bn8itww0.fsf@galloway.idiocy.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2y4bnhlwf.fsf@fastmail.com> (Random's message of "Sun, 17 Jan 2016 17:38:24 -0500")

Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> writes:

> Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org> writes:
>> Default coding system (for new files):
>>   1 -- iso-latin-1-unix (alias: iso-8859-1-unix latin-1-unix)
>
> Is this really appropriate? I'm not sure like the fact that it's not
> UTF-8.

I don't know if it's appropriate for OS X, but I'm pretty sure it
matches the codings that the Windows port gives me for en_GB (ENG, in
Windows). Besides, surely it's better than 'nil'?

> How does Terminal (and iTerm) know to use UTF-8?

If you load Emacs on OS X from the terminal this code changes some
settings (set-locale-environment in mule-cmds.el):

    (when (eq system-type 'darwin)
      ;; On Darwin, file names are always encoded in utf-8, no matter
      ;; the locale.
      (setq default-file-name-coding-system 'utf-8)
      ;; Mac OS X's Terminal.app by default uses utf-8 regardless of
      ;; the locale.
      (when (and (null window-system)
		 (equal (getenv "TERM_PROGRAM" frame) "Apple_Terminal"))
	(set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8)
	(set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8)))

So I assume this is how running it from the terminal results in more
UTF-8 codings being used. Perhaps this code should kick-in more
generally? I don't know.

The other possibility is that Terminal.app sets LANG to 'en_GB.UTF-8'.
That final part may be the difference we're seeing here?

>> Priority order for recognizing coding systems when reading files:
>>   1. iso-latin-1 (alias: iso-8859-1 latin-1)
>>   2. utf-8 (alias: mule-utf-8)
>
> This one also makes me wonder if the encoding specified in
> .CFUserTextEncoding/__CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING should be used for a second
> choice. Which may be an encoding that may not map directly to a locale.

I'm afriad I don't know what you're talking about here.

-- 
Alan Third





  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-18 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <m27fix2thu.fsf@galloway.idiocy.org>
2016-01-26  7:11 ` bug#22392: Emacs OS X GUI doesn't set locale Anders Lindgren
     [not found] ` <CABr8ebazqBT5tVtRc_bDj0x72gR52T=zAmmamyhkTB8e4pz6rg@mail.gmail.com>
2016-01-26 14:44   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <83twm01ju1.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-01-26 15:06     ` Anders Lindgren
     [not found]     ` <CABr8ebbTc1no_vra4m2Q6sbC=VqaZ4Xn8OGnQu78Z=uquKpGRA@mail.gmail.com>
2016-01-26 15:14       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <83lh7c1igo.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-01-26 16:58         ` Anders Lindgren
2016-01-26 23:05         ` Alan Third
     [not found]         ` <m2bn880wna.fsf@galloway.idiocy.org>
2016-01-27 18:06           ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-17 14:27             ` bug#22392: 25.0.50; NS Emacs run from " Alan Third
2016-01-17 22:38               ` Random832
2016-01-18 21:12                 ` Alan Third [this message]
2016-01-18 22:09                   ` Random832
2016-01-18 23:11                     ` Alan Third
2016-01-19 15:55                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-19 16:03                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30  6:13               ` bug#22392: Emacs " Random832
2016-02-05  7:12               ` Random832
2016-02-05  7:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05  7:36                   ` Random832
2016-02-05  9:21                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 17:28                       ` Random832
2016-02-05 19:46                         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <56A90735.7090508@cs.ucla.edu>
2016-01-27 19:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]             ` <83fuxizu1d.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-01-27 22:27               ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-28 22:53             ` Alan Third
     [not found]             ` <m260ydxqmp.fsf@galloway.idiocy.org>
2016-02-01  5:03               ` Anders Lindgren
     [not found]               ` <CABr8ebZ21MwYwDTeHogk4Afg7m73LGiiiVWNz2y=tJ0SSSsysQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-02-01 17:48                 ` Alan Third
2016-02-01 18:57                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-10 23:57                 ` Alan Third
2016-02-11  2:37                   ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-26 22:50   ` Alan Third
     [not found]   ` <m2fuxk0xbz.fsf@galloway.idiocy.org>
2016-01-27  6:21     ` Anders Lindgren
     [not found]     ` <CABr8ebb55SEwE2MOnKdSYm=xO6VReRU8g_dr0vN4CGMVwVYrvg@mail.gmail.com>
2016-01-27 15:53       ` Eli Zaretskii

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