From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23151: 25.1.50; Emacs should have a convenient command for saving unchanged buffers Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 09:11:19 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87fuv86obk.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87bn5w6kk9.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459440749 27290 80.91.229.3 (31 Mar 2016 16:12:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 16:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes , schwab@suse.de, larsi@gnus.org, 23151@debbugs.gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 31 18:12:18 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1alfCj-0002DY-29 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 18:12:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33205 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alfCi-0003Mn-EU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:12:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51046) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alfCY-0003EN-1w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:12:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alfCU-0000sV-Sq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:12:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:49293) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alfCU-0000sR-Oy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alfCU-0003ir-Ln for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:12:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: John Wiegley Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 16:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23151 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23151-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23151.145944069514261 (code B ref 23151); Thu, 31 Mar 2016 16:12:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2016 16:11:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46417 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alfC3-0003hw-BL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:11:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi0-f53.google.com ([209.85.218.53]:34429) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alfC2-0003hf-BB for 23151@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:11:34 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi0-f53.google.com with SMTP id o62so66903978oig.1 for <23151@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 09:11:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version; bh=+7BCB8HdJ8Lr4dZE1C35oezpUVdCKB0Tk5cQnAqZqog=; b=N1LNrpcQ8jjeRjkRKCShsUxFgIfK3TjcSHX/7I/XEyCwGypsMrCG1IUMXlUaJFKuUb OWVTQTSABZcyiB8TEaRqV7q7H1zCJzx8DBlRG3ave3rB8IEsyhJfy01ECs7VH36N3PdG iGonXyerHpJAaBVt347PD85xURosA5zUk3+zt1stmUtjRgVSMox3dCv+Jb3YgQxVMT7m KwUXgIpVfOTHkZDXf3NHny3LZWyTLbRpQoJrgqVzh1vD3uimGQnoDQc2QuTmH/f1eAIW hoYZJl4zZ3C95K5D5SaeDZ8OSSz1HqiSKpSu2u1dKhVFXoJ06E/v+5yA9GRUIT8zFuo9 +v6w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version; bh=+7BCB8HdJ8Lr4dZE1C35oezpUVdCKB0Tk5cQnAqZqog=; b=jZqjFkNPicbcRsq9gb6Moewhuhk07LDliJLorNGace0ugcBMP5P4AC9qdKuLZ/aXyo 55j3sh4g7DybiWO+MsB/LEnkWCaqhAHjJ64Y9o+JfIkEi0shcGj1Lq37fyM4m+KnE3na sdJAmrC76YTcmiB/dtuiB/sH9+Y6CvO+oNhY1+9mNY0qqjPt0gX0a399Kq8b6JxuseCy YLatbt6Vg3rABuwXJD/qGDrG00xyKO7xmiMiRchWisVTub43XtN0buFaOA/rkT4tfbVY MaVTVXIGl/gI4sjViDEpeY2UWvo6aoagNe6LfsNIgJhvnCKFCy371tsP0SSEXGklXg0b ZX6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLfM3GUGRtGffwXuOkfPqamFm5egW/zuBcIjPaHUnjk3ou9VE5KNPYy8xcENuuBdA== X-Received: by 10.157.5.247 with SMTP id 110mr8164422otd.193.1459440688600; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 09:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c7sm2874337obw.7.2016.03.31.09.11.27 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 31 Mar 2016 09:11:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 656E513CF048E; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 09:11:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:54:10 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.92 (darwin) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115806 Archived-At: >>>>> Richard Stallman writes: > I don't think the hypothetical "something better" would be enough of an > improvement to justify the increased complexity of one more option or > command. I agree. If I ever want to "force saving", I use C-x C-w, or modify/unmodify and C-x C-s, as others have mentioned. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2