From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29838: 26.0; Elisp manual: describe standard-error sexps Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 20:57:39 +0100 Message-ID: References: <837etcj95f.fsf@gnu.org> <058dab08-2e02-4378-b5e7-9d35e2b7d6af@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1514145378 18647 195.159.176.226 (24 Dec 2017 19:56:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 19:56:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cc: 29838@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 24 20:56:14 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eTCNY-0004H9-Q2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 20:56:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37938 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTCPV-0000GU-Kx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 14:58:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56483) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTCPP-0000G5-H1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 14:58:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTCPL-0004Xb-FS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 14:58:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:42274) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTCPL-0004X7-BP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 14:58:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eTCPK-0007DI-1U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 14:58:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 19:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29838 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 29838-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29838.151414546927710 (code B ref 29838); Sun, 24 Dec 2017 19:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29838) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Dec 2017 19:57:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50955 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eTCP6-0007Cs-Pp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 14:57:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:42136) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eTCP4-0007Cj-BT for 29838@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 14:57:47 -0500 Original-Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3z4Y210QKxz1qrN3; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 20:57:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3z4Y205H3Hz1qqkr; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 20:57:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Original-Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nq65N8gfhhqw; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 20:57:44 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: 4TL8U1EnARctdFbPs4gBvwSNzSgO/4A1uiPLhKJ3K/QBNx8jpToQJxaK5yOd+gzZ Original-Received: from linux.local (p4FE4C477.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.228.196.119]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 20:57:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by linux.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id B0B351E5865; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 20:57:40 +0100 (CET) X-Yow: On the road, ZIPPY is a pinhead without a purpose, but never without a POINT. In-Reply-To: <058dab08-2e02-4378-b5e7-9d35e2b7d6af@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 24 Dec 2017 10:54:31 -0800 (PST)") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:141467 Archived-At: On Dez 24 2017, Drew Adams wrote: > If users never saw such messages then perhaps there > would be no need to describe such things as > `(args-out-of-range 9 9)'. If they saw only nice > error messages such as "Args out of range: [1 2 3 4], -1" > then there would be no such problem. Is "Args out of range: 9, 9" any more informative? Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different."