From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:27:35 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87zhlbaf5d.fsf@kiddo.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <20190718173252.GA3093@robertalessi.net> <20190718184700.GA4886@robertalessi.net> <20190718203203.GG4886@robertalessi.net> <83tvbiv7dp.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="236405"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 36717@debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Alessi To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 19 10:29:10 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hoOGK-000zKg-G5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 19 Jul 2019 01:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rpluim-mac ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b19sm21989846wmj.13.2019.07.19.01.27.36 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 19 Jul 2019 01:27:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83tvbiv7dp.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:57:38 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:163372 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:57:38 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: Eli> We could ask on the Unicode mailing list. There are Unicode exper= ts Eli> there, and they are quite friendly. If someone can come up with a Eli> comprehensive description of our situation and the issues we are Eli> trying to resolve, please write to unicode@unicode.org, and ask the Eli> questions. I think reading helps some. My understanding of the situation is that the basic Greek block should be used, rather than the extended Greek block, for the LETTER + OXIA/TONOS combinations (and the extended block versions all decompose to characters in the basic block + a combining mark). To me that implies that the Greek input methods should use GREEK TONOS (\u384) consistently rather then GREEK OXIA (\u1ffd), but I couldn't see any explicit mention of that, and at least in my font they're visually distinct. There=CA=BCs also , but that=CA=BCs much longer, so I only read the bit about oxia vs tonos, and it also has nothing to say on which to use when inserting only the accenting character itself. Robert