From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan J Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2099: 23.0.60; `mark_object' with larger nested objects crashes Emacs Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 20:32:48 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20090128230645.07F1DC468CC@mt-computer.local> <83vb70kv67.fsf@gnu.org> <8337u4kju1.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1452544461 24098 80.91.229.3 (11 Jan 2016 20:34:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 20:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 2099@debbugs.gnu.org To: markus.triska@gmx.at Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 11 21:34:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aIjAI-00054T-PC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 21:34:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56803 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aIjAI-0005W7-5E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:34:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32835) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aIjAE-0005Vz-4J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:34:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aIjAA-0005VP-R7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:34:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:58619) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aIjAA-0005VL-Nz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:34:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aIjAA-0004pH-KY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:34:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alan J Third Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 20:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2099 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: confirmed Original-Received: via spool by 2099-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2099.145254440518495 (code B ref 2099); Mon, 11 Jan 2016 20:34:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2099) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2016 20:33:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46838 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aIj9Z-0004oF-56 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:33:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-f45.google.com ([74.125.82.45]:37549) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aIj9X-0004o2-HC for 2099@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:33:23 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-f45.google.com with SMTP id f206so288060908wmf.0 for <2099@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 12:33:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=G685VaTP4bJi5cIFjdI9nyyQWCAz0o+az9qDg0k2cT0=; b=q12prWnjWClsoXxec9t1+eHLBhVCzh5lf8HHnLtav5BZDkWklaaPGUlb77fcCK4x9X iofJ9qr6l7ed26BRDNQTokw14Uxu098fuduOcpxqDIaLiBOpVzBoFnqbq1HY+Sj5ErUb ll4V1bmk40W7lctKNl/7MKMM5Ajd9OY3pIg87sh69n9+SUue8rS4hy8b0UqaGIRxfGT9 m+px15uqze80W+TFd9y9zu5GVNzxRMsemb+MZBKKX5RH+ctObswaVEZt8kSWOqaf8EDs /sX0XSXCUJspLC/qUdLrqKDc+8/stQOVa6bI6yX94lcLp9QiI1sC+nc3mzK+QkwyLGtA PbRw== X-Received: by 10.194.192.198 with SMTP id hi6mr137492080wjc.141.1452544397917; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 12:33:17 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from galloway.idiocy.org (a.0.b.3.e.9.c.e.0.6.6.6.0.9.1.c.9.2.1.8.8.f.3.0.0.b.8.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa. [2001:8b0:3f8:8129:c190:6660:ec9e:3b0a]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z137sm14364706wmc.8.2016.01.11.12.33.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Jan 2016 12:33:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (markus triska's message of "Mon, 11 Jan 2016 20:57:49 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:111527 Archived-At: markus.triska@gmx.at writes: > I find it hard to believe that a way to crash Emacs is somehow *not* > considered a bug. If that is the case, I agree with what Glenn recently > said: Just deal with this report in any way you wish. My thinking was simply that it sounds like it will require reimplementation of the GC, and that's not likely to happen any time soon, or perhaps ever. Looking over the debbugs docs again, though, it should probably be changed to wishlist, as Eli suggested originally. Like you say, a crash is surely a bug, even if it is hard to fix. FWIW I found a 'real-world' bug report, bug#16039, which appears to have the same cause, although it requires a different remedy. -- Alan Third