From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm>
To: Thomas Fitzsimmons <fitzsim@fitzsim.org>
Cc: 33050@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#33050: 27.0.50; [macOS] Problem with process input with process-connection-type nil
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 17:05:39 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2a7n3bft8.fsf@fgunbin.playteam.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m38t2oglby.fsf@fitzsim.org> (Thomas Fitzsimmons's message of "Tue, 23 Oct 2018 21:55:13 -0400")
This may be the clue to the problem:
man termios(4):
If a process is in the foreground process group of its controlling termi-
nal, read operations are allowed. Any attempts by a process in a back-
ground process group to read from its controlling terminal causes a
SIGTTIN signal to be sent to the process's group unless one of the fol-
lowing special cases apply: If the reading process is ignoring or block-
ing the SIGTTIN signal, or if the process group of the reading process is
orphaned, the read(2) returns -1 with errno set to EIO and no signal is
sent. The default action of the SIGTTIN signal is to stop the process to
which it is sent.
I output the process-attributes of the started process, and note tpgid
(ID of foreground process group on the process’s tty) and tty:
- p-c-t t
attrs=((etime 0 0 7080 0) (start 23504 29912 167367 0) (nice . 0)
(tpgid . 16419) (tty . ttys001) (pgrp . 16419) (ppid . 98669) (state
. R) (comm . ldapsearch) (group . staff) (egid . 20) (user . fgunbin)
(euid . 501))
ldapsearch's pgrp=16419, it is using ttys001 for r/w, and it's in
foreground process group on that tty (tpgid . 16419)
- p-c-t nil
attrs=((etime 0 0 6177 0) (start 23504 29897 662718 0) (nice . 0)
(tpgid . 98669) (tty . ttys000) (pgrp . 16416) (ppid . 98669) (state
. R) (comm . ldapsearch) (group . staff) (egid . 20) (user . fgunbin)
(euid . 501))
ldapsearch's pgrp=16416, it is using ttys000 for r/w (??), and it is
NOT in foreground process group on that tty - (tpgid . 98669). 98669
is emacs, and emacs is in foreground - this is ok.
So the question is - why the process in the second case thinks that it
has a tty? When it tries to use it, it receives SIGTTIN and is stopped,
as termios man page says. My test case with p-c-t nil results in the
processed being stopped, indeed.
My knowledge of these things is very limited, forgive me if I'm clearly
wrong somewhere.
Filipp
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-24 14:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-15 19:03 bug#33050: 27.0.50; [macOS] Problem with process input with process-connection-type nil Filipp Gunbin
2018-10-20 10:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-22 15:35 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-10-23 1:53 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-10-23 22:41 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-10-24 1:55 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-10-24 13:13 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-10-24 14:05 ` Filipp Gunbin [this message]
2018-10-24 16:20 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-10-24 19:33 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-10-24 19:46 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-10-24 22:07 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-10-25 15:51 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-10-25 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-25 17:10 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-10-25 17:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-25 18:10 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-10-25 18:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-25 19:36 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-10-25 19:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-25 20:47 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-10-26 6:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 1:41 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-10-26 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 15:41 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-10-26 17:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-27 10:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-27 13:42 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-10-27 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-27 16:53 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-10-27 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 23:12 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-10-27 2:09 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-10-27 14:52 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-10-30 0:49 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-10-30 19:11 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-11-28 23:09 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-11-29 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-29 8:46 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-11-29 9:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-29 9:51 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-11-29 10:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-29 14:09 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-12-03 14:17 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-12-04 12:37 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-12-22 15:05 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-10-27 6:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-27 14:37 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-10-27 20:28 ` Charles A. Roelli
2018-10-28 16:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-28 19:53 ` Charles A. Roelli
2018-10-25 16:41 ` Filipp Gunbin
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